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View Poll Results: Minneapolis or Charlotte
Minneapolis 79 69.91%
Charlotte 34 30.09%
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Old 09-25-2011, 03:32 PM
 
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See I was using city proper and you are using Metro Data that's the differents in our out look....
Even if you are comparing just city proper, Minneapolis still wins out over the city of Charlotte in regards to diversity and entertainment.

Have you lived in either city Howest2008? I've lived in both and I'd say experience is more legitimate than opinion.
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Old 09-25-2011, 06:37 PM
 
Location: The State Of California
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Even if you are comparing just city proper, Minneapolis still wins out over the city of Charlotte in regards to diversity and entertainment.

Have you lived in either city Howest2008? I've lived in both and I'd say experience is more legitimate than opinion.
I haven't lived in either Charlotte or Minneapolis , but have visited both , I don't have a problem with anybody thinking that the city proper of Minneapolis is a greater city than Charlotte when Charlotts and Minneapolis are compared.

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Old 10-10-2011, 09:03 PM
 
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Being the city of Minneapolis is only 54.9 sq miles and the city of Charlotte is a whopping 297.7 sq. miles, I decided to make this more of an apples-to-apples comparison. First of all, Minneapolis would not only need its neighbor St. Paul to reach 297.7 sq. miles, but also 29 of their surrounding suburbs (inner and second-ring) . A Charlotte-sized Minneapolis would have a population of 1,231,417 whereas Charlotte has 731,424 (2010 Census).

As far as diversity goes, here is a breakdown of each city (source: 2010 Census)

Minneapolis (super sized to 297.6 sq. miles):
Black or African American alone: 175,793
Hispanic or Latino (of any race): 107,734
Asian alone: 104,358
American Indian and Alaska Native alone: 13,701
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander alone: 628
Some Other Race alone: 52,559
Two or More Races: 46,737

Charlotte (at 297.7 sq. miles)
Black or African American alone: 256,241
Hispanic or Latino (of any race): 95,688
Asian alone: 36,403
American Indian and Alaska Native alone: 3,483
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander alone: 581
Some Other Race alone: 49,928
Two or More Races: 19,404

As one can see, Minneapolis is a bit more diverse.
NO Minneapolis isn't as you just point out "A Charlotte-sized Minneapolis would have a population of 1,231,417 whereas Charlotte has 731,424 (2010 Census)." That mean Minneapolis would have nearly 500,000 more people, diversity is determine by percentage. A Minneapolis the size of Charlotte by area would have more minority by default of being larger by population not that it's actually more diverse.

I mean 500K more people, but less blacks, only 9K more Latinos, 68K more Asians and etc What? Charlotte is more diverse.
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Old 10-10-2011, 11:39 PM
 
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NO Minneapolis isn't as you just point out "A Charlotte-sized Minneapolis would have a population of 1,231,417 whereas Charlotte has 731,424 (2010 Census)." That mean Minneapolis would have nearly 500,000 more people, diversity is determine by percentage. A Minneapolis the size of Charlotte by area would have more minority by default of being larger by population not that it's actually more diverse.

I mean 500K more people, but less blacks, only 9K more Latinos, 68K more Asians and etc What? Charlotte is more diverse.
Obviously you are thinking in terms of black and white and what do you mean diversity is determined by percentage? If you want to go by percentages only, the city of Minneapolis has a 15.3% foreign born population whereas Charlotte is 13.7% (St. Paul is 15.2%). Chiatldal, I've lived in both. You can see and taste diversity in Minneapolis. Charlotte doesn't offer that. End of story.

Honestly, some my former Charlotte peeps have got to get out more. Trying to state Charlotte is this and that when it clearly isn't is beyond ridiculous. Furthermore, even if Charlotte had the diversity (ethnic, sexual, religion, etc....) you all claim it has, it's still behind MPLS. Sorry, but that's a fact.

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Old 10-11-2011, 10:40 AM
 
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Honestly, some my former Charlotte peeps have got to get out more. Trying to state Charlotte is this and that when it clearly isn't is beyond ridiculous. Furthermore, even if Charlotte had the diversity (ethnic, sexual, religion, etc....) you all claim it has, it's still behind MPLS. Sorry, but that's a fact.
Hennepin County, Minnesota
1,152,425 total population
557 sq/miles of land
2,070 sq/mile density

Non-Hispanic whites 71.7%
Blacks--------------11.8%
Hispanics----------- 6.7%
Asians-------------- 6.2%
Biracial--------------3.2%
Native Americans---- 0.9%
Hennepin County QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau

Mecklenburg County, North Carolina
919,628 total population
526 sq/miles of land
1,747 sq/mile density

Non-Hispanic whites 50.6%
Blacks--------------30.8%
Hispanics----------- 12.2%
Asians-------------- 4.6%
Biracial--------------2.6%
Native Americans---- 0.5%
Mecklenburg County QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau
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Old 10-11-2011, 12:36 PM
 
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Get over it already.

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Old 10-11-2011, 02:12 PM
 
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Hennepin County, Minnesota
1,152,425 total population
557 sq/miles of land
2,070 sq/mile density

Non-Hispanic whites 71.7%
Blacks--------------11.8%
Hispanics----------- 6.7%
Asians-------------- 6.2%
Biracial--------------3.2%
Native Americans---- 0.9%
Hennepin County QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau

Mecklenburg County, North Carolina
919,628 total population
526 sq/miles of land
1,747 sq/mile density

Non-Hispanic whites 50.6%
Blacks--------------30.8%
Hispanics----------- 12.2%
Asians-------------- 4.6%
Biracial--------------2.6%
Native Americans---- 0.5%
Mecklenburg County QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau
That in itself doesn't tell the story. Diversity includes ethnicity as well as race. A city with half of its population consisting of American-born Caucasians and another city with half of its population consisting of Irish, Italian, German, Russian, and Portugese immigrants will both have White populations of 50%. That hardly means the two are equally diverse.
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Old 10-11-2011, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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Who cares. This is the dumbest argument ever.
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Old 10-11-2011, 02:55 PM
 
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That in itself doesn't tell the story. Diversity includes ethnicity as well as race. A city with half of its population consisting of American-born Caucasians and another city with half of its population consisting of Irish, Italian, German, Russian, and Portugese immigrants will both have White populations of 50%. That hardly means the two are equally diverse.
Hennepin County, Minnesota
Foreign born persons, percent, 2005-2009----11.9%
Language other than English 2005-2009 -----15.3%
Hennepin County QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau

Mecklenburg County, North Carolina
Foreign born persons, percent, 2005-2009----12.6%
Language other than English 2005-2009 -----16.0%
Mecklenburg County QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau

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Old 10-11-2011, 03:08 PM
 
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Hennepin County, Minnesota
Foreign born persons, percent, 2005-2009----11.9%
Language other than English 2005-2009 -----15.3%
Hennepin County QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau

Mecklenburg County, North Carolina
Foreign born persons, percent, 2005-2009----12.6%
Language other than English 2005-2009 -----16.0%
Mecklenburg County QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau
Those are more relevant statistics, but it gives a bit more of an accurate picture to see exactly what groups are represented by foreign-born. Still good info though.

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I agree. Neither are very diverse IMO. Even if they were, I just don't get what is so important about diversity (or lack thereof).
You don't see how diversity adds to the cultural richness of a city, in the form of arts, cuisine, music, etc? In many cases, immigrants tend to be highly educated and engage in entrepreneurship at higher levels as well. I think this plays out much differently in a city like Charlotte where a lot of immigrants (who are more or less newcomers) opt for the suburbs as opposed to historic centers of immigration like the Northeastern cities where they established urban enclaves in and around the urban core, thus making them more integrated into the urban fabric and the life of the city.
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