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Old 09-20-2011, 11:08 AM
 
Location: The Lakes
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Whaddya think guys? Criteria I'm specifically interested in:
-Arts scene
-Music scene
-Nightlife
-Downtown
-Recreational opportunities in nature (hiking, boating)
-Affordability
-Transportation
-Diversity
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Old 09-20-2011, 12:39 PM
 
Location: DC
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Definitely Minneapolis.

-Arts scene
-Music scene
-Nightlife
-Downtown
-Recreational opportunities in nature (hiking, boating)
-Affordability
-Transportation
-Diversity

....yeah, Definitely Minneapolis LOL
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Old 09-20-2011, 12:43 PM
 
Location: The Lakes
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Definitely Minneapolis.

-Arts scene
-Music scene
-Nightlife
-Downtown
-Recreational opportunities in nature (hiking, boating)
-Affordability
-Transportation
-Diversity

....yeah, Definitely Minneapolis LOL
Eh, I think they're so close to equal in every regard... Any reasons why you think it dominates in every category?
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Old 09-20-2011, 02:15 PM
 
Location: The Lakes
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Old 09-20-2011, 02:21 PM
 
Location: DC
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-arts/music scene:
Minneapolis has the 2nd largest live theater per capita scene, and 3rd largest overall (behind nyc and chicago). There are tons of museums and theaters.

-nightlife:
Uptown is really cool for restaurants and things to do, while downtown has a good amount of bars/clubs. St. paul offers a different mix as well.

-Downtown: definitely safer, there are 2 of them, more street activity & life, newer & cleaner.
-recreational: the MSP area is known for its overall healthy people and variety of outdoorsy things to do: 10,000 lakes after all! The city also has an extensive park system.

From wikipedia: "Minneapolis is home to more golfers per capita than any other major U.S. city. The state of Minnesota has the nation's highest number of bicyclists, sport fishermen, and snow skiers per capita."

Transportation: MSP has their new light rail, and it's expanding. Actually not quite sure how Cleveland compares. MSP's airport is also one of the largest in the country.

Diversity: The MPLS - STPL area has the largest Somali, Hmong, Oromo (Ethiopian), Liberian, Karen (Burmese) and Anuak (Ethiopian/Sudanese) populations in the U.S., and is home to the second largest Tibetan population. (stolen from BlackOut: Minneapolis vs Charlotte)
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Old 09-20-2011, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, OH
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CLEVELAND


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Old 09-20-2011, 09:11 PM
 
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Wow, good comparison. These are both great cities. I'd side with Cleveland though. It can match or exceed Minneapolis in almost all of your criteria, but where it blows the Twin Cities away is location. Minneapolis is essentially an island in the middle of nowhere.
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Old 09-20-2011, 09:37 PM
 
Location: classified
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As someone who as spent time in both cities I will try to weigh in.

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Whaddya think guys? Criteria I'm specifically interested in:
-Arts scene
I would say they are about equal. Cleveland has Playhouse Square which is considered to be the second largest performing arts center in the United States behind Lincoln Center and then you have the Cleveland Orchestra which is nationaly renowned, and the Cleveland Museum of Art which is estimated to carry over 4,000 pieces of works. Minneapolis meanwhile also has a thriving art scene with the Guthrie Theater, Walker Art Center, Minneapolis Institute of Arts, Weisman Art Museum, and the Minneapolis Orchestra.

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-Music scene
I would say Minneapolis has a more thriving music scene.

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-Nightlife
Slight edge to Minneapolis, but Clevelands nightlife is not lacking in any sense of the word.

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-Downtown
Downtown Minneapolis is more vibrant then Downtown Cleveland although there are tons of new developments that are taking place in Downtown Cleveland as well. However Downtown Cleveland to me feels more desolate in comparison.

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-Recreational opportunities in nature (hiking, boating)
About equal since Minneapolis has tons of parks and lakes in vicinity, and Cleveland has the metroparks system and even a National Park nearby, not to mention Lake Erie.

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--Affordability
Cleveland

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--Transportation
Regarding the road network light edge to Cleveland since traffic congestion is not as bad. Comparing the two cities public transit systems, both cities have rail networks, right now the RTA "Rapid" network is more extensive but Minneapolis is aggresively expanding their light rail system and they even have commuter rail. Looking at direct flights MSP wins over CLE since Delta Airlines still operates a large airline hub there with more international flights.

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--Diversity
Minneapolis since they have a larger immigrant population, although Cleveland has more old school "ethnic" neighborhoods.
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Old 09-21-2011, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Cleveland bound with MPLS in the rear-view
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No "definitely's" or "by fars" or "not even close" phrases should be used in this thread. These cities are comparable on just about every level (Minny or CLE boosters!!!).
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Old 09-22-2011, 06:49 AM
 
Location: Athens, GA (via Pittsburgh, PA)
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Arts: In terms of fine arts, Cleveland. In terms of modern arts, Minneapolis.

Music scene: It's a draw in terms of concerts. Cleveland has the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, which is a national destination, but Minneapolis has contributed more to American popular music in recent years, aside from industrial metal. Minneapolis wins by a nose.

Nightlife: If you asked me 10 years ago, I'd say Cleveland, but for one reason or another, its nightlife has lost steam in recent years, so I'd have to go with Minneapolis.

Downtown: Even in spite of the severely cold winters and the pedestrian tunnels between buildings, downtown Minneapolis has more ambiance than downtown Cleveland.

Recreation: Cleveland has a big lake, a river, and a national park in its metropolitan area, so its recreational attributes are just as good as those in and around Minneapolis, but Minneapolis seems to be a bit more recreation-minded than Cleveland does, so Minneapolis has a slight edge.

Affordability: Cleveland wins this one quite comfortably. Minneapolis is just trendy enough to be more expensive than most cities its size.

Transportation: In terms of highways, Cleveland. In terms of public transit, Minneapolis.

Diversity: It's a draw. Minneapolis is whiter and more Asian. Cleveland is blacker and more Hispanic.
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