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View Poll Results: Which one is better?
Chicago 94 53.11%
L.A. 83 46.89%
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Old 11-07-2011, 03:00 PM
 
Location: LBC
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True (they're not that far apart though, especially with post-michelin eateries like Bouchon, Newport Beach Mozza, and Red O making the scene), but again, that type of dining doesn't even represent a microcosm of a city's culinary landscape. They're outliers. 99.9% of one's dining doesn't take place in establishments like that.
Yeah, I'd give "fine-dining" weight proportionate to the number of times I actually seek it out. IOW, relatively little.

Many here appear eager to associate upwards. Open question to anybody reading this: what percentage of your purchased prepared meals would you classify as "fine dining"?
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Old 11-07-2011, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Chicago has some great high end dining establishments, but in terms of general restaurants, LA takes the cake. Tons of the restaurants on Sunset are great and there is plenty to choose from. Don't get me wrong, Chicago has great restaurants too, but LA just seems to cater to my taste. LA has a diverse array of asian restaurants, and I personally love Japanese, Thai, and Chinese food.
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Old 11-07-2011, 04:14 PM
 
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LA has two many grills from the 1980s.
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Old 11-07-2011, 06:55 PM
 
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Actually there are. That is why LA gets bashed a lot esp for illegals and such... Can't have it both ways, they do have Chicago in that department. Fine dining? It's good, but it's no Chicago.
No, there aren't. If there were 7-8 million foreign born people in the L.A. CSA, that would be more than 40% of the population. Here are the actual breakdowns:

Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana, CA Metro Area: 34.7% foreign born
Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario, CA Metro Area: 21.6% foreign born
Oxnard-Thousand Oaks-Ventura, CA Metro Area: 20.7% foreign born

Those are the three metro areas that make up the L.A. CSA. None of them are even close to 40% foreign born.
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Old 11-07-2011, 07:16 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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No, there aren't. If there were 7-8 million foreign born people in the L.A. CSA, that would be more than 40% of the population. Here are the actual breakdowns:

Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana, CA Metro Area: 34.7% foreign born
Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario, CA Metro Area: 21.6% foreign born
Oxnard-Thousand Oaks-Ventura, CA Metro Area: 20.7% foreign born

Those are the three metro areas that make up the L.A. CSA. None of them are even close to 40% foreign born.
Already did the calculations, it's 5.7 million people. That's the legal population. Throw in another 700-800k that are here illegally (probably a low-ball estimate) and you're closing in on 7 million foreign born in Greater Los Angeles.
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Old 11-07-2011, 07:21 PM
 
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No, that's not just the legal population. Someone need not be legally in the country to be counted in the census. The Census Bureau makes a concerted effort to count EVERY resident, legal or illegal. Obviously some illegals try to hide from being counted (just like some legal citizens hide from the census), but most of them ARE counted. The census is NOT "only" the legal population.
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Old 11-07-2011, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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Highly unlikely that illegal immigrants were rushing to fill out census forms in 2010. The margins for error of that demographic are, by all accounts, huge. A lot of them don't like being counted. Even if we low-ball the margin for error and settle on 6 million--that's basically equal to the entire population of Houston (metro), just of foreign born residents in Greater L.A.
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Old 11-07-2011, 08:07 PM
 
Location: San Leandro
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Chicago. La is nice, but you have to drive everywhere to eat anything.

It has a quality scene but the aesthetic of naperville in that there are some walkable areas to eat and rest you need a car.

Korean town for korean, east la for authentic mexican, down to south central for soul food, out to glendale for persian, santa monica for your pot brownies. Everything is drive drive drive. La even has a lunch time rush hour.

It is no wonder LA perfected the drive in in the 1950's and the food truck in the 2000's.
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Old 11-07-2011, 08:10 PM
 
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It has a quality scene but the aesthetic of naperville in that there are some walkable areas to eat and rest you need a car.
shudder...this is true... I am not sure why but areas like that horrify me. It's probably why LA loses a lot of points with me albeit its a great major city. Just not my preference. Dining to me is multiple parts, not just food, but ambiance, service, etc.
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Old 11-07-2011, 08:29 PM
 
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Highly unlikely that illegal immigrants were rushing to fill out census forms in 2010. The margins for error of that demographic are, by all accounts, huge. A lot of them don't like being counted. Even if we low-ball the margin for error and settle on 6 million--that's basically equal to the entire population of Houston (metro), just of foreign born residents in Greater L.A.
It doesn't matter if illegal immigrants were "rushing to fill out census forms or not". By law everyone must be counted. Some "illegals" do avoid the census, but the census bureau makes a concerted effort to count EVERYONE, even if they try to avoid being counted. To suggest that the census "only" counts legal citizens is hogwash.
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