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It depends. The metros along the coast of California like L.A., San Diego, San Fran, etc. can compete with the NYC area in terms of QoL. But I don't see how the areas in California's Central Valley offer a better QoL than Upstate NY. The weather might be better and the scenery might be neck and neck, but things like jobs, schools, development, crime and poverty seem to be way worse in the California Central Valley areas.
Quality of life is much higher in California than New York, and to be quite honest, it's not even much of a competition.
California has much better weather, scenery, topography, and IMO, cities. As an aside, I hate NYC, and the rest of the major cities in NY are very dilapidated. Additionally, most of New York is freezing cold from mid-October to mid-May, sometimes longer; taxes are just as high--if not higher--than California; and homes, buildings, and roadways are much older and, in many cases, more rundown.
That said, the biggest advantage California has over New York is people and overall culture. People in CA are easier to live around than people in New York, especially people in NYC, LI, and Westchester. Californians tend to be very casual/laid back/easy-going; polite (e.g., you'll rarely hear a car horn in most of CA); tolerant, even if not approving; and generally aloof, but pleasant if engaged. New Yorkers, OTOH, tend be rude, loud, aggressive, uptight, and perpetually stressed out. New Yorkers also love to tell you what to do--very bossy group of people. I would know, too--I lived around and worked for/with a lot of New Yorkers as a kid (late teens through twenties).
IMO, New Yorkers are the truly the epitome of East Coasters--always trying to be tough, rude, ghetto, shrewd, or have some other variant of a "get-outta-way" mentality/attitude. East Coasters always seem to be scheming, too (i.e., trying "one-up" or "put one over" on you)--very unlike Californians and West Coasters in general.
Also, most people on here probably don't realize that East Coasters, including New Yorkers, tend be a lot more provincial and conventional than Californians and West Coasters. There may be lots of Democrats on the East Coast, but they tend to be more of the card-carrying union member-type than the more progressive, open-minded Democrats of the West Coast. Perhaps that's due to the fact that people on the West Coast are more creative-minded, individualistic, free-spirited, humane, etc.--I don't know, but it is what it is.
Oh, yeah--Californians are a lot healthier/fitter and more attractive than New Yorkers, too.
Your post was just one giant rant. Someone looking for a viewpoint will hopefully not pay any mind to your post.
The typical "my state is great" and "your state sucks" rant. Cool.
It's just sad that you had to write a page worth of it. Envious?
Anywho in NYC it doesn't freeze from mid October to mid May or longer lmao. NYC is known for having all 4 seasons respectfully. Today it was near 60 for example.
Yea I know this is a NY vs CA thread but being sneaky and using NYC stereotypes to describe the state is just too funny.
New Yorkers that live upstate are some of the nicest people in this country, and they do not have that cocky, plastic attitude that people in CA have. Lol
It's all ice for skiing and snowboarding? Interesting.......Is that for the Adirondacks, certain ski centers or in general?
Really it's just a characteristic of ski conditions in the Northeast. Lot's of people and icy snow. There are a few exceptions (Killington) but most in NY, NH, MA, and PA are straight up ice.
Quality of life is much higher in California than New York, and to be quite honest, it's not even much of a competition.
California has much better weather, scenery, topography, and IMO, cities. As an aside, I hate NYC, and the rest of the major cities in NY are very dilapidated. Additionally, most of New York is freezing cold from mid-October to mid-May, sometimes longer; taxes are just as high--if not higher--than California; and homes, buildings, and roadways are much older and, in many cases, more rundown.
That said, the biggest advantage California has over New York is people and overall culture. People in CA are easier to live around than people in New York, especially people in NYC, LI, and Westchester. Californians tend to be very casual/laid back/easy-going; polite (e.g., you'll rarely hear a car horn in most of CA); tolerant, even if not approving; and generally aloof, but pleasant if engaged. New Yorkers, OTOH, tend be rude, loud, aggressive, uptight, and perpetually stressed out. New Yorkers also love to tell you what to do--very bossy group of people. I would know, too--I lived around and worked for/with a lot of New Yorkers as a kid (late teens through twenties).
IMO, New Yorkers are the truly the epitome of East Coasters--always trying to be tough, rude, ghetto, shrewd, or have some other variant of a "get-outta-way" mentality/attitude. East Coasters always seem to be scheming, too (i.e., trying "one-up" or "put one over" on you)--very unlike Californians and West Coasters in general.
Also, most people on here probably don't realize that East Coasters, including New Yorkers, tend be a lot more provincial and conventional than Californians and West Coasters. There may be lots of Democrats on the East Coast, but they tend to be more of the card-carrying union member-type than the more progressive, open-minded Democrats of the West Coast. Perhaps that's due to the fact that people on the West Coast are more creative-minded, individualistic, free-spirited, humane, etc.--I don't know, but it is what it is.
Oh, yeah--Californians are a lot healthier/fitter and more attractive than New Yorkers, too.
Great post. Most agreed on the card carrying union East Coast democrats. I can't stand them.
Great post. Most agreed on the card carrying union East Coast democrats. I can't stand them.
If I take her post, switch it around and bash California and use L.A stereotypes to describe northern Cali. Is it safe to agree that my post will be great as well? LOL
Really it's just a characteristic of ski conditions in the Northeast. Lot's of people and icy snow. There are a few exceptions (Killington) but most in NY, NH, MA, and PA are straight up ice.
NYC takes the number one slot with Long Island in there as well. SF, Oakland, and Santa Ana (odd) are towards the back.
No Hawaii did, and San Fran Oakland made the list.
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