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I take it that Detroit's metro population is around 6 million if counting Windsor, Canada area of Ontario and Boston around 7 million if counting Rhode Island.
Im not talking metro (Boston is bigger MSA and CSA), City Proper Boston could Surpass Detroit and Baltimore in the next 15-20 years.
Boston could consolidate other cities like Quincy or Cambridge to make it's population bigger. Cities like Indy, Louisville, Jax have done this. I don't know if this would be legal in Mass.
This would be impossible. The cities are way too independent politically and would never want to be part of the city.
Boston is only 98,000 away from Detroit, and even if Detroit only loses 30,000 every 10 years (way slower fall than 2000-2010), and Boston gains only 25,000 (slower than 2000-2010) then Boston will pass Detroit in like 2027.
I totally had the wrong numbers then. I was looking at something that said Detroit had 930,000 people. If the difference is only 98,000, then I agree, Boston might very well pass Detroit in the next decade.
I totally had the wrong numbers then. I was looking at something that said Detroit had 930,000 people. If the difference is only 98,000, then I agree, Boston might very well pass Detroit in the next decade.
Detroit is at 715,000 and Bostons at 617,000 and Baltimore is at 620,000 as of the 2010 census count.
Detroit is at 715,000 and Bostons at 617,000 and Baltimore is at 620,000 as of the 2010 census count.
Only issue is when will Boston run out of space to accomodate so many people. Detroit can hold twice as many people has it has now and Baltimore can accomodate a million.
Only issue is when will Boston run out of space to accomodate so many people. Detroit can hold twice as many people has it has now and Baltimore can accomodate a million.
At this point, the South Boston Waterfront is almost totally undeveloped. Plus, there are plenty of open parcels throughout the city for development. The Southern part of the city (like Dorchester) has moderate density in the 15k per square mile range. There's plenty of room to develop.
San Francisco has 800,000 in the same amount of area. Paris has over 2,000,000 in considerably less area.
Obviously Boston & Paris are far different...but the problem of there "not being enough room" is not going to come up for a long time.
And Baltimores Westport Waterfront is currently being developed Baltimore is slowly being gentrified, I definitely think the next census will show population growth, If Boston surpasses Baltimore I don't see it being by much!
And Baltimores Westport Waterfront is currently being developed Baltimore is slowly being gentrified, I definitely think the next census will show population growth, If Boston surpasses Baltimore I don't see it being by much!
Baltimore on the population loss/gain dynamic seems very much like Philly, areas gaining and losing simultaneously, Boston is further ahead than either on its "rebirth" so to speak. And you could be right in that Baltimore could reverse the loss trend, though probably not a ton of absolute growth even with large growth in certain areas. Philly reversed a 60 year trend of losses in the last census, and only by a total of a 8K gain. Think Baltimore is right about at the gain/loss tipping point today so you very well may be right
Baltimore on the population loss/gain dynamic seems very much like Philly, areas gaining and losing simultaneously, Boston is further ahead than either on its "rebirth" so to speak. And you could be right in that Baltimore could reverse the loss trend, though probably not a ton of absolute growth even with large growth in certain areas. Philly reversed a 60 year trend of losses in the last census, and only by a total of a 8K gain. Think Baltimore is right about at the gain/loss tipping point today so you very well may be right
Baltimore is losing population due to gentrification at the moment. People in many neighborhoods are getting pushed out. The area around johns Hopkins, west port, even places notorious for poverty ( Pennsylvania ave corridor). Meanwhile, other places are surging. Downtown Baltimore's population grew by 130% in 10 years. Pigtown is growing, Patterson park, station north...there are a few others that i cant think of at the moment. While the city is gentrifying, however, the inner ring suburbs will see a slight decline. Some won't notice anything at all. Towson, parkville, Perry hall, reisterstown, hunt valley, timonium, and many others are very safe.
And Baltimores Westport Waterfront is currently being developed Baltimore is slowly being gentrified, I definitely think the next census will show population growth, If Boston surpasses Baltimore I don't see it being by much!
What I see happeing is Boston surpasses Baltimore for the 2020 census and somewhere around 2025 Baltimore could surpass Boston, as it will be along in its revival and it has more room to work with. (being ~35 sq miles bigger)
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