After NY, LA, and Chicago, what is America's FOURTH city? (California, Florida)

[munchitup]

Originally Posted by Trae713

It should be noted that the inner loop in Houston is not the densest part. That's the Southwest, with the apartments and single family homes on tiny lots. Give the Inner Loop five to ten more years though because there is so much infill going on currently.

That's a fair point... It has about the same density numbers as San Diego, though in a different aesthetic.

That area does remind me a little bit of one area in LA, the Palms district on the Westside. Actually I take this back upon closer inspection... the most similar area is probably the Warner Center / Topanga Canyon Blvd. area: http://g.co/maps/tk68h

[kidphilly]

Originally Posted by Trae713

It should be noted that the inner loop in Houston is not the densest part. That's the Southwest, with the apartments and single family homes on tiny lots. Give the Inner Loop five to ten more years though because there is so much infill going on currently.

5 or 10 in this regard? It needs to triple the population within the loop; it grew by about 18-20% in the last ten years; by that rate it would take 60-70 years to match not 5 or 10. Also even the densest area of Houston, not as large area wise is only like 7K; the densest parts of Houston just are not close in this regard. Again densisty isnt everything but on this metric no Houston likely will never be as dense; which is fine but it is dramatically different and 5 or 10 years wont even put a dent in this disparity

[HtownLove]

Originally Posted by robertpolyglot

Dallas is another fast-growing metro, because companies see it as a good place to do business. It is a financial center and, well, the airport is enormous. However, it's a regional city, fighting over that distinction with Houston.

Houston is far from a regional City. Houston has globally important economic centers in Energy and Shipping. It by no means serves as a regional hub. Dallas is clearly the regional hub for the area, you can see that by the level of flights through DFW airport

[killakoolaide]

Philly has merged with NYC via Jersey, so it can be taken out of the equation.

SoCal is number 2

Bay Area, DC/Bmore, and Chicagoland are fighting for 3,4, and 5.

[munchitup]

Originally Posted by HtownLove

Houston is far from a regional City. Houston has globally important economic centers in Energy and Shipping. It by no means serves as a regional hub. Dallas is clearly the regional hub for the area, you can see that by the level of flights through DFW airport

I think Dallas-FW and Houston are neck and neck in national importance. Neither are merely 'regional' cities.

[munchitup]

Originally Posted by killakoolaide

Philly has merged with NYC via Jersey, so it can be taken out of the equation.

SoCal is number 2

Bay Area, DC/Bmore, and Chicagoland are fighting for 3,4, and 5.

Chicago is easily number 3.

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by MostInterestingPoster3

Isn't the Bay Area, to some extent, in the shadow of LA? I mean the distance from DC to NYC is 220 miles, while LA-SF is 380 miles.

This is the 2nd time you've made this comment but you havent really explained how exactly SF is overshadowed by LA?

Furthermore, by your logic, arent Philadelphia, DC and Boston therefore all overshadowed by NYC since they are all at least half as close to NYC than SF is to LA?

[lucas9]

Originally Posted by killakoolaide

Philly has merged with NYC via Jersey, so it can be taken out of the equation.

SoCal is number 2

Bay Area, DC/Bmore, and Chicagoland are fighting for 3,4, and 5.

When in the world did Philly become part of Metro New York. Did I miss the memo?

[kidphilly]

Originally Posted by munchitup

I think Dallas-FW and Houston are neck and neck in national importance. Neither are merely 'regional' cities.

would agree both are very powerful and nearly identical in many regards. Both also have bright and prosperus futures. There seems a huge in-state rivalry (which in the end will probably benefit both) but overall see them very similar and with very bright futures. I think most outside dont see them as differently as people within the state but again that may be good for both, sibling rivalry

[MostInterestingPoster3]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

This is the 2nd time you've made this comment but you havent really explained how exactly SF is overshadowed by LA?

Furthermore, by your logic, arent Philadelphia, DC and Boston therefore all overshadowed by NYC since they are all at least half as close to NYC than SF is to LA?

I'm not denying that Philadelphia (especially), DC, and Boston are overshadowed by NYC to some extent, but a lot of the posters in this thread keep repeating how NYC's presence hurts Boston, DC, and Philadelphia, but the same can't be said for LA and SF?

Shouldn't these cities be decided on their individual merits?