After NY, LA, and Chicago, what is America's FOURTH city? (crime, place)

[75 South]

If you are combining Baltimore in the DC CSA, it's hard to push the Bay ahead of it. They are neck and neck obviously. Then, it comes down to which ones you like more than others.

[phamb]

Ok, to make them happy, here is my new list:

1. New York and its suburb Philly
2. L.A
3. Chicago
4. D.C, S.F & Boston
5. Houston & Dallas
6. Seattle

[SirGreenDown]

I love how Houston posters on here are always sour because nobody ever thinks of Houston...ever but somehow feel Philly posters are responsible for this? I also will NEVER stop loving how San Francisco posters always have to combine "the bay" to be considered a real city and compete. You guys

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by SirGreenDown

I love how Houston posters on here are always sour because nobody ever thinks of Houston...ever but somehow feel Philly posters are responsible for this?

Ironic.

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by SirGreenDown

I also will NEVER stop loving how San Francisco posters always have to combine "the bay" to be considered a real city and compete.

A real city doesnt let a suburb be the shopping mecca of the entire metro area.

Just saying.

[btownboss4]

Originally Posted by SirGreenDown

I love how Houston posters on here are always sour because nobody ever thinks of Houston...ever but somehow feel Philly posters are responsible for this? I also will NEVER stop loving how San Francisco posters always have to combine "the bay" to be considered a real city and compete. You guys

At least they don't add counties thataren't even in their CSA.

[btownboss4]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

A real city doesnt let a suburb be the shopping mecca of the entire metro area.

Just saying.

So the Twin cities are not real because of the MOA

[Slyman11]

I feel Phillians really have unexplainable hatred for DC, SF, and Houston

[KodeBlue]

Originally Posted by MDAllstar

Well, I guess we will see. D.C. has added substantial growth in jobs compared to 2000 while Baltimore has not. There was only a 5,000 person difference in commuting from Baltimore city proper and D.C. in Howard county so I guess it will depend on how the 40,000 additional residents commute. Most people in Howard County identify with D.C. now in 2010 anyway so if it is switched, it will make more sense. Anne Arundel County had a 7,000 person difference between Baltimore proper and D.C. proper. A huge wide card here is the increase in jobs in D.C. proper and the loss of jobs in Baltimore city proper due to 20%+ office vacancy rate in 2010. Office vacancy was non-existent in D.C. proper in 2010. We will see, but in the last 10 years, the region has made a complete 360 degree shift. It is a very real possibility.

More people in Howard county with DC than Baltimore? I don't know about that.

[HtownLove]

Originally Posted by Slyman11

I feel Phillians really have unexplainable hatred for DC, SF, and Houston

They do. It is most times subtle, some times it is not, but it is there.

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

A real city doesnt let a suburb be the shopping mecca of the entire metro area.

Just saying.

Austin does that, Miami does too