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Old 03-15-2012, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Villanova Pa.
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Where did you get this from
memory recall
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Old 03-15-2012, 06:19 PM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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You are dead wrong about that.

Upstate New York, especially the southern tier region, is almost exactly like Pennsylvania.

On the other hand, it has very little in common with northern New Jersey. :/

Upstate NY is like PA, Ohio, even Vermont or Connecticut depending on where you are, but not very much like New Jersey at all. Any similarities with Jersey are strictly downstate.
Cook, you are right that New Jersey more closely resembles Downstate. Obviously this makes sense because they are right next to each other.

But there are some things in New Jersey that you can find Upstate. Things like glacial lakes in nothern New Jersey. The Appalachian mountains and foothills. Large forests including Pine Barrens (near Albany). The Delaware, the Walkill and the Hudson River. Hiking paths that begin in New Jersey and go way upstate. History including the unique Dutch settlements and the Continental Army during the Revolution. Even a few trout streams and black bears.

New Jersey packs alot in for its small size.
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Old 03-15-2012, 06:22 PM
 
Location: where u wish u lived
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Where did you get this from

California was $1.901 Trillion in 2010 and is easily over $2 Trillion now.
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Old 03-15-2012, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland
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California's GDP in 2010 is $1.901 Trillion according to bea.gov(Bureau of Economic Analysis of the US Commerce Dept) and the combined GDP of NJ/NY/PA is $2.215 Trillion.

Which makes sense considering NJ/NY/PA has 3.6 million more people.

On the other hand, its only a matter of time that CA surpasses this trio in population and GDP-eventually both things will happen.
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Old 03-15-2012, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland
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Ive been known to make minor mistakes too. No big deal rainrock.

Anyway, as I said earlier I think 'better' is defined by quality of life and amenities more so than GDP, but 'better' is also harder to quantify as there is no such thing as a wrong opinion when it comes to personal preference.
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Old 03-15-2012, 06:52 PM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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Monty's figures seem to be correct for 2010. But Rainrock mentioned 2011. Still it is very hard to believe there has been a decrease in California from 1.9 to 1.4 in one year. Is it possible that 1.4 GDP represents Texas?
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Old 03-15-2012, 08:10 PM
 
Location: Montco PA
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That's all. To be blunt, you aren't likely to find the same kinds of hillbillies or rednecks in northern New Jersey you could find in Pennsylvania or upstate NY.
Ha! As a suburban Philadelphia person I have to admit - this is true. You generally would not find the same types of people living in the woods of NWJ that you would find in rural PA or rural NY.
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Old 03-15-2012, 08:13 PM
 
Location: London, U.K.
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I would rather be in the best city in the world than some scenic state out west. LA is inferior to SF but SF is still inferior to NYC in almost every category
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Old 03-15-2012, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland
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Monty's figures seem to be correct for 2010. But Rainrock mentioned 2011. Still it is very hard to believe there has been a decrease in California from 1.9 to 1.4 in one year. Is it possible that 1.4 GDP represents Texas?
Official data for 2011 hasnt been released yet.
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Old 03-17-2012, 07:45 AM
 
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It's already a better state than California.

It has more culture, history, and things that actually matter than California ever could.
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