More International and Cosmopolitan: Texas, Florida, or Northern California (bigger, Atlanta, ranking)

[Huge Foodie 215]

Originally Posted by Johnhw2

Id there no data on numbers born in middle east countries, vietnam, African countries or Argentina?

This is a very interesting set of data. How would an expat from say France to Houston but counted? Is that a primary residence for them, I assume it is. Great research!

Yeah, Houston has a large Vietnamese and Indian population last I heard. I think it could possibly outnumber the Bay Area's Vietnamese and Indian population sooner than we think. Though as of now:

Vietnamese:

SF Bay: 186,225
Houston: 104,126
DFW: 72,059
Miami: 11,057

Indian:

SF Bay: 245,685
DFW: 100,079
Houston: 91,852
Miami: 41,334

[Johnhw2]

Originally Posted by polo89

Touche.

This data is fascinating. Would other cities such as Austin/San Antonio in Tx, and other Fla or N Cal city's data be available? Tx appears to beat Fla in many instances based upon just the four city's data.

I assume the census data does not show second generation's residents such as those born in the USA but with one or both parents born elsewhere. I assume we use foreign born as the best approximation of international representation in an area.

[EndersDrift]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

Huh? This is doublespeak.

The list I put has a people born in foreign countries and the places in the US they now live in.


This is true, but there has been a huge migration from all over Europe and Asia to the Bay Area in the past 20 years specifically to work in technology as even entire companies or corporate division relocate to Silicon Valley from overseas--most of them work with corporate relocation services that dont go on trulia. lol

Im sure Miami attracts wealthy Latin Americans, but you obviously have very little idea of the fact that the Bay Area and its half trillion dollar economic juggernaut actually causes people to move there for work.

Not sure about the doublespeak comment when this is what you said:
"....from these countries actually move to and make their primary residence." You didn't state and I think you know and have even now acknowledged that what you posted was not "where these people are moving to" it is "where these people have moved from historically". I simply wanted to restate that because I was posting in 2011 according to that survey those numbers are where people are CURRENTLY looking at purchasing homes. No historic information.

Did you read that article I posted showing that California has seen less new Foreign population than either Florida or Texas since 2005? Would that not go against your comment about its "half a trillion dollar economic juggernaut actually causes people to move there for work".

Did you see the Fairus.org material? It shows both California and Florida had their foreign born populations triple in the last 20 years.
Florida: 1mil to 3.6mil
California: 3.6 to 10.1

The Foreign-Born Asian population in Florida increased by a significantly higher percentage than the Foreign-Born Asian population in California from 2000 to 2009 according to that organization's research. Florida since 2000 has seen a 30% jump in Foreign Born Globally while Cali has seen a 12% jump. Texas which seems to have fallen aside for some reason in this thread has seen a 37% foreign-born increase since 2000.

California
Florida
Texas

[EndersDrift]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

In other words, 2005-2010
California +1,349,000
Texas +749,000
Florida +621,000

So now that California has 10 MILLION FOREIGN BORN RESIDENTS, I dont mind spreading the wealth. lol

California: 163,696 sq mi
That's 8.2 foreign people per square mile. So let's say 8 since I don't think someone would appreciate being fractioned off.

Florida: 65,755 sq mi
That's 9.4 foreign people per square mile. So 9.

[Huge Foodie 215]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

In other words, 2005-2010
California +1,349,000
Texas +749,000
Florida +621,000

So now that California has 10 MILLION FOREIGN BORN RESIDENTS, I dont mind spreading the wealth. lol

I thought this thread isn't about all of California, I thought it was just about Northern California.

A huge percentage (probably majority) of that foreign born went to Southern California, which no one is going to dispute is cosmopolitan. However, as for Northern California, that question is still in the air....I bet if its NorCal alone, it would rank lower than TX and FL on this measure.

[EndersDrift]

Originally Posted by Huge Foodie 215

I thought this thread isn't about all of California, I thought it was just about Northern California.

Most of the foreign born went to Southern California, which no one is going to dispute is cosmopolitan. However, as for Northern California, that question is still in the air....I bet if its NorCal alone, it would rank lower than TX and FL.

I dont know about this. I think NorCal is Cosmopolitan. I just also think Houston, Dallas, Miami and to an extent Orlando are also cosmopolitan.

[Huge Foodie 215]

Originally Posted by EndersDrift

I dont know about this. I think NorCal is Cosmopolitan. I just also think Houston, Dallas, Miami and to an extent Orlando are also cosmopolitan.

I think its cosmopolitan as well, but as much as Miami? I don't really know. My brain has a hard time selling that, given that not only mass media has beamed into my brain the cosmopolitan nature of Miami, but also the sheer percentage of foreign born in Miami while being represented by more countries.

It's pretty clear that this thread has went the direction of San Francisco vs. Miami, but there are other cities that exist in NorCal and Florida such as Tampa, Orlando, Jacksonville, Sacramento, Stockton, Fresno, etc. Especially since Texas is still an option (Houston is VERY underrated, and Dallas is right behind), there hasn't been enough about them.

[18Montclair]

Anyway, here are the ancestry/race alone/country of origin found by scouring 4 separate indices of the Census 2010 portal.

Ancestry/Ethnicity/Race Alone/Country of Origin by 10,000+ persons

Dallas-Ft Worth: 31 groups
Mexican 1,495,751
German 500,211
English 384,262
Irish 362,120
Italian 114,328
Asian Indian 104,343
Scottish 78,382
French 76,732
Vietnamese 73,105
Scotch-Irish 65,348
Salvadoran 60,299
Polish 48,881
Dutch 41,742
Chinese 39,879
Puerto Rican 34,107
Korean 33,157
Swedish 28,811
Norwegian 28,076
Filipino 24,412
Czech 23,248
Russian 21,141
Honduran 18,258
Guatemalan 15,009
Welsh 14,849
Spaniard 14,437
Iranian 14,356
Nigerian 14,169
Pakistani 14,000
French Canadian 12,244
Cuban 11,250
Colombian 10,894

Houston-Baytown-Huntsville: 33 groups
Mexican 1,601,318
German 400,873
English 241,841
Irish 229,829
Salvadoran 141,704
Vietnamese 111,315
Asian Indian 94,229
Italian 91,425
French 83,991
Chinese 72,974
Honduran 53,721
Scottish 52,032
Polish 50,593
Scotch-Irish 44,366
Guatemalan 38,215
Filipino 34,651
Czech 34,418
Puerto Rican 29,680
Colombian 28,980
Dutch 28,550
Pakistani 24,516
Nigerian 19,631
Swedish 19,526
Cuban 19,223
Korean 17,157
Spaniard 15,513
Norwegian 15,328
Russian 15,168
French Canadian 13,302
Venezuelan 12,501
Iranian 11,671
Welsh 11,544
Green 11,057

Miami-Ft Lauderdale-Pompano Beach: 46 groups
Cuban 982,758
Haitan 300,756
Italian 246,361
Puerto Rican 207,727
Colombian 204,198
German 203,021
Irish 185,722
Jamaican 153,012
Mexican 130,794
English 129,729
Nicaraguan 118,768
Russian 102,278
Polish 97,608
Dominican 95,966
Venezuelan 75,235
Honduran 74,357
Peruvian 71,886
Guatemalan 47,699
Argentinean 44,022
French 42,163
Asian Indian 39,775
Brazilian 37,530
Ecuadorian 37,029
Salvadoran 33,033
Chinese 29,342
Scottish 25,062
Hungarian 22,577
Spaniard 19,286
Portuguese 17,487
Dutch 17,218
Chilean 17,161
Filipino 17,048
Greek 16,964
Bahamanian 16,286
Canadian 15,758
Austrian 14,114
Panamanian 13,529
Vietnamese 13,394
French Canadian 13,021
Swedish 12,983
Scottish-Irish 12,760
Costa Rican 11,528
Trinidadian & Tobagonian 11,351
Norwegian 11,304
Uruguayan 11,081
Romanian 10,828

San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland: 52 groups
Mexican 1,336,383
Chinese 578,367
German 424,965
Filipino 376,689
Irish 355,501
English 310,863
Italian 293,497
Asian Indian 244,679
Vietnamese 189,758
Salvadoran 98,979
French 87,556
Korean 86,717
Portuguese 80,461
Russian 78,439
Scottish 74,796
Japanese 72,239
Polish 64,869
Swedish 62,887
Norwegian 54,580
Dutch 49,824
Guatemalan 45,773
Puerto Rican 43,164
Nicaraguan 38,366
Iranian 37,964
Scotch-Irish 37,145
Spaniard 35,498
Greek 30,692
Danish 29,359
Peruvian 25,982
Taiwanese 25,090
Swiss 19,470
Ukranian 17,262
Pakistani 16,893
Welsh 15,875
Hungarian 15,637
Cambodian 15,011
French Canadian 12,640
Laotian 12,482
Canadian 12,126
Armenian 11,942
Cuban 11,742
Austrian 11,427
Lebanese 11,304
Colombian 11,112
Scandinavian 11,068
Czech 11,030
Honduran 10,789
Thai 10,600
Afghan 10,236
Tongan 10,130
Ethiopian 10,021
Samoan 10,029

Also,

Multiracial Population, 2010
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland 345,345
Dallas-Ft Worth 172,408
Houston-Baytown-Huntsville 112,423
Miami-Ft Lauderdale-Pompano Beach 93,886

[Huge Foodie 215]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

Anyway, here are the ancestry/race alone/country of origin found by scouring 4 separate indices of the Census 2010 portal.

Aren't there any Native American groups over 10,000 in any of the metro areas? And are these ancestries alone or alone with something else?

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by Huge Foodie 215

Aren't there any Native American groups over 10,000 in any of the metro areas? And are these ancestries alone or alone with something else?

*I dont know what "Mexican American Indian" is specifically, but it is a major category

Tribe Alone, NOT combined with another tribe
1,000+

Miami-Ft Lauderdale-Pompano Beach, FL
Mexican American Indian 3,011

Dallas-Ft Worth, TX
Cherokee 5,986
Choctaw 5,814
Mexican American Indian 3,514
Chickasaw 1,882

Houston-Baytown-Huntsville, TX
Mexican American Indian 4,691
Cherokee 2,904
Choctaw 1,549

San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, CA
Mexican American Indian 7,188
Cherokee 2,836
Apache 1,690
Navajo 1,367
Choctaw 1,046
Sioux 1,001