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View Poll Results: Area that is most international and cosmopolitan
Florida 24 22.02%
Texas 20 18.35%
Northern California 65 59.63%
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Old 03-31-2012, 09:10 PM
 
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That's the entire point of my posts, but if they wanted to go there, don't forget LA is in the same state taking that...so it's a lose lose. It shouldn't be used as a measure, virtually every country save maybe Somalia is represented in DC for their U.S. Embassy.
It does show what cities are regional centers though, and to an extent, it does extend how international a place could be.

I think the whole state line argument is sort of pointless, considering that the distance between LA and SF is still 380 miles, not exactly a great day trip for those who need quick access to a consulate. That being said, the same can be true for the 280 miles from Dallas to Houston.

In effect, its only just one measure, depends how much you want to weigh it.

I prefer stocking weight in the foreign born argument and the origins of where those foreign born are from.

I think that Florida does take the cake in having a more equitable spread between countries, though most of those foreign born countries are in one region of the world.

Texas, IMO, has a more equitable spread across world regions though STILL heavily biased toward Mexico, while Northern California probably has its hands in a huge number of countries, with a somewhat slight Asia bias (though Mexico is notably probably still #1 by far).
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Old 03-31-2012, 09:24 PM
 
Location: plano
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It's cherry picking b/c you aren't getting WHY certain consulates are delegated to certain cities, the cities serve as regional consulates, and LA overlaps SF just like Houston overlaps Dallas. Both in the same states... The list of consulates doesn't have as much to do with population in the cities, but the regions themselves. To disregard the behemoth 18 million metro Los Angeles in the same state of "nor cal" taking up this position wouldn't be smart.
I understand your point now. I excluded from my count countries who had embassies in Dallas and Houston to not duplicate. I didnt of La and SF so close that countries chose one over both cities but they obviously would.
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Old 03-31-2012, 09:25 PM
 
Location: Florida
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It does show what cities are regional centers though, and to an extent, it does extend how international a place could be.

I think the whole state line argument is sort of pointless, considering that the distance between LA and SF is still 380 miles, not exactly a great day trip for those who need quick access to a consulate. That being said, the same can be true for the 280 miles from Dallas to Houston.

In effect, its only just one measure, depends how much you want to weigh it.

I prefer stocking weight in the foreign born argument and the origins of where those foreign born are from.

I think that Florida does take the cake in having a more equitable spread between countries, though most of those foreign born countries are in one region of the world.

Texas, IMO, has a more equitable spread across world regions though STILL heavily biased toward Mexico, while Northern California probably has its hands in a huge number of countries, with a somewhat slight Asia bias (though Mexico is notably probably still #1 by far).

good points
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Old 03-31-2012, 09:51 PM
 
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Finally figured out how to use the American Factfinder site to figure out Northern California's foreign born

Mexico: 1,371,987
China: 377,784
Philippines: 347,078
India: 210,079
Vietnam: 187,915
El Salvador: 92,555
Korea: 73,601
United Kingdom: 51,353
Canada: 51,065
Iran: 45,771

Compared to:

Texas

Mexico: 2,485,336
El Salvador: 169,001
India: 164,508
Vietnam: 156,923
China: 101,693
Honduras: 79,220
Philippines: 72,650
Guatemala: 60,891
Korea: 55,699
Pakistan: 43,686


Florida

Cuba: 844,846
Haiti: 292,826
Mexico: 263,351
Colombia: 230,498
Jamaica: 185,022
Nicaragua: 100,534
Canada: 98,363
Dominican Republic: 96,840
Venezuela: 94,802
Honduras: 90,192
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Old 03-31-2012, 10:14 PM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland
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Not only is Northern California MORE diverse, but it's large immigrant population is also FAR WEALTHIER and MORE COSMOPOLITAN than Texas and Florida. Texas and Florida is full of impoverished immigrants, and a few wealthy ones, but nothing compared to the huge populations of wealthy, educated and well connected minorities in Norcal.
Well, Miami is a magnet for the elite of Latin America, that cant be discounted.

Otherwise, Census 2010 data shows that the Bay Area by itself has a greater number of highly educated and high earning foreign-born persons than either TX or FL.

Foreign Born Employed Adults earning $75,000+ Annually, 2010
San Francisco Bay Area 281,022 31.1%
State of Texas 197,145 11.7%
State of Florida 158,278 11.3%

Foreign Born Adults with a Graduate Degree, 2010
San Francisco Bay Area 310,585 16.0%
State of Florida 293,327 9.3%
State of Texas 265,434 7.8%

If we combine all of Greater NorCal(Bay Area, Sacramento, Stockton, Modesto, Salinas & Merced) that lead obviously widens.
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Old 04-01-2012, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Not only is Northern California MORE diverse, but it's large immigrant population is also FAR WEALTHIER and MORE COSMOPOLITAN than Texas and Florida. Texas and Florida is full of impoverished immigrants, and a few wealthy ones, but nothing compared to the huge populations of wealthy, educated and well connected minorities in Norcal.
Care to back that up?
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Old 04-01-2012, 07:26 AM
 
Location: 75025 (previously 75254, 90505, 90010, and 60614)
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Care to back that up?
Actually Montclair18 did it for him if you look at the post above yours.
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Old 04-01-2012, 07:40 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Ok now I see, it just sounded like he was saying California was the only one to have wealthy foreigners while Florida & Texas had mostly poor ones.
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Old 04-01-2012, 07:58 AM
 
Location: The City
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Mapping America ? Census Bureau 2005-9 American Community Survey - NYTimes.com
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Old 04-01-2012, 08:04 AM
 
Location: 75025 (previously 75254, 90505, 90010, and 60614)
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This one is more recent:

Mapping the 2010 U.S. Census - NYTimes.com
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