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View Poll Results: Which metro region?
Minneapolis-St. Paul 48 23.19%
Los Angeles 46 22.22%
Chicago 6 2.90%
Philadelphia 11 5.31%
New York 10 4.83%
Bay Area 1 0.48%
Dallas-Ft. Worth 56 27.05%
Houston 12 5.80%
Phoenix 5 2.42%
Other 12 5.80%
Voters: 207. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-17-2012, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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According to Esri, Phoenix, Houston, Las Vegas, Orlando, Philadelphia, New York and Los Angeles have more leaseable Mall space than either of the two you mentioned. Phoenix has a whopping 39M sq feet of rentable retail space Anyway Dallas does not have the most malls, they do not have the most sq footage, they do not have the most stores, They do not have the most of these per capita either. Dallas has a lot of upscale shopping, but it does not really have the most of anything.

Esri Data | Major Shopping Centers Data

ESRI ranks them as follows

Number of Malls:
1. Houston- 58
2. San Antonio- 41
3. Phoenix- 40
4. Columbus- 32
5. Austin- 31
6. Philadelphia- 29
7. Dallas-28
8. Jacksonville- 25
9. Memphis- 24
10. Chicago- 22
11. San Diego-22
12. Baltimore- 21
13. Los Angeles- 15


Don't ask me what they consider a mall, I have no idea how they came up with this listing

Number of Individual stores:
1. New York- 76,000
2. Los Angeles- 40,000
3. Chicago- 30,000
4. Philadelphia- 21,000
5. Dallas Fort Worth- 19,000
6. Houston- 17,000
7. Boston 17,000
8. San Francisco- 14,000
9. Phoenix- 12,000
10. Seattle- 11,000

Sorry I didn't find Miami or Atlanta



Dallas is not even in the top ten for malls per capita
Hahahaha, well I have lived in Columbus and there's nowhere close to 32 malls! There's essentially 4. I don't care to do the research myself but I just know that Columbus doesn't have 32 malls, so it's hard for me to believe that the list or the ranking is accurate whatsoever. To put Memphis or Columbus above LA should have been another red flag.
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Old 07-17-2012, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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Here's USA Today's list:

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...5u2nBdqu6rRB5Q


And if it's the creme de la creme of reviews you crave, there's always Forbes' list (you'll love #1, but HATE #2!, htown!):

America's 25 Best Cities For Shopping - America's 25 Best Cities For Shopping - Forbes.com
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Old 07-17-2012, 08:55 PM
 
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Hahahaha, well I have lived in Columbus and there's nowhere close to 32 malls! There's essentially 4. I don't care to do the research myself but I just know that Columbus doesn't have 32 malls, so it's hard for me to believe that the list or the ranking is accurate whatsoever. To put Memphis or Columbus above LA should have been another red flag.
That was the one I thought most odd too, but then again they didn't say what they considered a mall

lol, the second link you posted has the exact same figures, but sweet, it has Houston as number 1 for shopping
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Old 07-17-2012, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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That was the one I thought most odd too, but then again they didn't say what they considered a mall

lol, the second link you posted has the exact same figures, but sweet, it has Houston as number 1 for shopping
I'm nearly certain it's only in the city municipal boundaries and it includes things like Target, Wal-Mart, K-Mart, Kohl's, Home Depot, etc. They called them "shopping centers", not malls, which is maybe the reason you see such high numbers for relatively small cities. It's the only thing that makes sense!
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Old 07-17-2012, 09:10 PM
 
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I'm nearly certain it's only in the city municipal boundaries and it includes things like Target, Wal-Mart, K-Mart, Kohl's, Home Depot, etc. They called them "shopping centers", not malls, which is maybe the reason you see such high numbers for relatively small cities. It's the only thing that makes sense!
you may be right. If you click your second link there is a right up to the list. On the second page they talk about Phoenix having a whooping 6 Walmarts (second only to Charlotte and San Antonio)
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Old 07-17-2012, 09:19 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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you may be right. If you click your second link there is a right up to the list. On the second page they talk about Phoenix having a whooping 6 Walmarts (second only to Charlotte and San Antonio)
I'm fairly certain that there aren't 6 Wal-Marts in metro Twin Cities (and 0 in Minneapolis)!
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Old 07-17-2012, 09:21 PM
 
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I'm fairly certain that there aren't 6 Wal-Marts in metro Twin Cities (and 0 in Minneapolis)!
you got Target though
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Old 07-18-2012, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Shaw.
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Just because dallas has most malls per cap doesn't make it mall capital people all around the world visit new york and los angeles to shop.....not to come off rude but who outside of dallas heard of a dallas mall lol people come to L.A for malls your favorite rapper or movie star or athlete could be seen any given day of the week at the beverly center or fox hills mall not to mention the south coast plaza in orange county is the number 1 money making mall in america
I like to read this as a single sentence. That's a good point about the South Coast Plaza, though.
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Old 07-18-2012, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh (via Chicago, via Pittsburgh)
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They're not passe in Asia, but then again the urban layout is a lot denser, and 8-10 storey tower like malls are more common.
I definitely think malls have their place. Not every store can be indie/boutique (nor do I think that would be a good thing). I really like the high rise malls. You don't have to walk 5 miles to the other side of the mall, as each floor is smaller (and there are more of them). I never really appreciated malls until Water Tower Place. Before I was used to suburban malls that smelled of Auntie Anne's pretzels and Macy's (although those have their own nostalgic place in my heart )

Water Tower Place - Upscale Shopping, Dining, Entertainment in Chicago, Illinois

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4034/4...db3f015e_z.jpg
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Old 07-18-2012, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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I like to read this as a single sentence. That's a good point about the South Coast Plaza, though.
still waiting for something other than Wikipedia as a source for that one but as it is a privately held mall and not required to share their financials, I guess they can claim just about anything they want to.

As far as most profitable (sales/sq ft) of the big malls, The Forum Shops at Caesars is #1 followed by Ali Moana.

America's Most Profitable Malls - Rick Newman (usnews.com)
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