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Thankyou! I though thats how it worked. I would like to see the European numbers as well. I am impressed by LA in terms of Latin America, although I feel they may be skewed towards Mexico/Central America.
Some measurements do only include passengers clearing customs, but these are actual O&D numbers. By the way, Miami international makes up 4.3 million and Fort Lauderdale makes up 2 million of the figure listed.
What about the south Pacific, Austrualia, NZ. LA & SF will have the lions share as well.
Not trying to rip on Miami. I would absolutely love to visit the area and I have much respect of the airport. The amount of foreign flags that serve Miami is impressive!!
Los Angeles blows San Francisco out of the water when it comes to Oceana flights. Qantas has a "mini hub" at LAX and when Qantas pulled out of SFO in favor of DFW due to an alliance with American (promised domestic feed) and big time concessions from the DFW officials I was bummed out to see them go. We have Air New Zealand with direct flights to Auckland running 6x weekly using a B744 four out of the six days (777-300) the other two days.
There is no nitpicking. Those Miami numbers are completely inflated when regarding it to international tourism/prominence to the metro area. Miami is the major gateway BY FAR to Carribean/Latin and South America and American Airlines has the largest network to those regions which happens to also have a hub in Miami. EVERY passenger that is connecting to ANOTHER CITY must pass through customs in Miami. That is why the O&D numbers are high. For you to think that the Miami metro is almost the sole reason for those high numbers is ludacris. International O&D figures are calculated by how many ppl clear customs, not if there final destination is the local area. You are wrong.
Miami versus San Francisco
Latin America- Miami by a HUGE margin
Asia- San Francisco by a large margin
Europe- It's close to even
Miami has no disputed contender for Latin American international flights, San Francisco has to contend with Los Angeles and on a smaller scale Seattle as an Asian gateway.
No I don't believe they ALL are staying in Miami but its ridiculous for you to act as if that SF or LA are any different.
Thankyou! I would like to see the European numbers as well. I am impressed by LA in terms of Latin America, although I feel they may be skewed towards Mexico/Central America.
You are right, LA is skewed towards Mexico/Central America.
Los Angeles has two South America destinations- Lima, Santiago
San Francisco has one - Lima
You are right, LA is skewed towards Mexico/Central America.
Los Angeles has two South America destinations- Lima, Santiago
San Francisco has one - Lima
How does SF have a flight to Lima because when I lived there all I ever met was Mexicans/Mexican Americans- the only Peruvian I met was a grad student.
No I don't believe they ALL are staying in Miami but its ridiculous for you to act as if that SF or LA are any different.
San Francisco and Los Angeles have their share of connecting passengers for Asia as well, but the percentage of all international passengers that have both cities as their final destination is higher. United's hub network out of SFO isn't nearly as extensive as American's is in Miami
How does SF have a flight to Lima because when I lived there all I ever met was Mexicans/Mexican Americans- the only Peruvian I met was a grad student.
The flight started about a year ago. Though I believe it isn't daily. From what I hear the flights are full since my girlfriend works at the international terminal.
Let me add that Lan Peru does for South America from SFO as Emirates does from SFO to the Middle East and the Indian Sub-Continent. Lan Peru has a large South American network so you will have Brazilians, Columbians, etc. taking the flight from SFO then connecting in Lima.
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San Francisco and Los Angeles have their share of connecting passengers for Asia as well, but the percentage of all international passengers that have both cities as their final destination is higher. United's hub network out of SFO isn't nearly as extensive as American's is in Miami
Percentage might be higher but but who cares in the end I have a feeling overall Miami's absolute numbers will be higher than SF when Justme finds the data on Europe. Miami I believe has more service than SF, with flights to two airports in Moscow, both airports in Paris, both in Berlin, Dusseldorf, Frankfurt, Zurich, Milan, Rome, London, Madrid, Barcelona, and Lisbon.
Also two of LA's busiest international flights are right next door to Mexico. You're basically trying to argue Miami should be penalized for being the hub for north-south travel in this hemisphere because SF isn't the hub for Asia-US travel.
San Francisco and Los Angeles have their share of connecting passengers for Asia as well, but the percentage of all international passengers that have both cities as their final destination is higher. United's hub network out of SFO isn't nearly as extensive as American's is in Miami
I was going to say that. Miamis American hub passes passengers thru much more. Miami is close to the carribbean, so almost anyone going will pass through Miami. Its like domestic travel thru Atlanta or Dallas
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