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Old 04-30-2012, 03:58 PM
 
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But St. Paul is a completely different city......
So what? The city of St. Paul literally borders the city of Minneapolis and the two downtown areas about 10 miles apart.
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Old 04-30-2012, 03:58 PM
 
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I know this is not absolute but Chicago is basically the size of Philly plus Houston plus another Philly and another Houston (well nearly) so again where are they comparable even when combined. Chicago is a monster

Philly 330
Houston 360



Chicago 1125

List of cities with the most high-rise buildings - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


BTW - cool shot of MSP above
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Old 04-30-2012, 03:58 PM
 
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umm suggest you re-read. I said Houston doesnt have 150 m sq feet of highrises

And my point was and is always that Houston and Philly would be more similar than the Chicgao comparison which to me was silly (and the loop was never thrown in until called on it, even so the broader DT of Chicago is vastly larger than combined Houston on both office and residential; Chicago is not a good comparator; my point). Chicago is Vastly larger than Houston in numbers of highrise; whereas Houston and Philly are much closer the point

On the later point yes 45 mil is what it is but including the residential highrises (many more in Philly compared to Houston on the residential front) and Ucity as a clust would be more similar to all Houston combined


Are you suggesting Houston in terms of highrises is closer to Chicago than Philly - this is crux
facts are facts.

and if Houston were to add all those buildings The closest comparison to that new Skyline would be Chicago. As it is already DT Philly is only slightly bigger.

Adding DT and Uptown alone towers over Philly let alone the others like TMC, Greenway, etc etc

and why do you insist on combining Chicago. The person who made the connection was comparing what it would like if all the Skylines in Houston were built in one place. Why would someone compare it to all of Chicago? Common that is stupid. Read
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Old 04-30-2012, 03:59 PM
 
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Its Houston hands down with its many CBD like areas of office some like the Galleria has a robust night life with high density residential near by despite being the shadow of downtown. Philly and Oakland are nice too but no zoning puts Houston in another category as mini DT's can pop up anywhere

Do agree it adds a different characteristic

Atlanta does as well and these are pretty cool as a contrast and visually
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Old 04-30-2012, 04:03 PM
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So what? The city of St. Paul literally borders the city of Minneapolis and the two downtown areas about 10 miles apart.
But this was what I was talking about earlier..... it's taken as different CBD's within ONE city, like L.A. or Houston, or NY, or the other cities already mentioned.

Or am I missing something...?
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Old 04-30-2012, 04:04 PM
 
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I know this is not absolute but Chicago is basically the size of Philly plus Houston plus another Philly and another Houston (well nearly) so again where are they comparable even when combined. Chicago is a monster

Philly 330
Houston 360



Chicago 1125

List of cities with the most high-rise buildings - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


BTW - cool shot of MSP above
for the zillionth time get a qtip and listen.

The person said if the buildings were all down it would be comparable to Chicago.
Everyone knows Chicago has far more buildings overall, but can't you stop for a second and see what the person was saying instead of running the thread to the ground arguing over something that is not the issue.


IT IS NOT WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT. We know Chicago has a **** load of buildings, but the poster was just remarking on how large the skyline would be and he is right, the skyline would be two or three times as large as Philly's and about the size of Chicago's.
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Old 04-30-2012, 04:05 PM
 
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But this was what I was talking about earlier..... it's taken as different CBD's within ONE city, like L.A. or Houston, or NY, or the other cities already mentioned.

Or am I missing something...?

well then becomes sort of useless. land area of cities is arbitrary physical distance and connectivty are not
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Old 04-30-2012, 04:07 PM
 
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for the zillionth time get a qtip and listen.

The person said if the buildings were all down it would be comparable to Chicago.
Everyone knows Chicago has far more buildings overall, but can't you stop for a second and see what the person was saying instead of running the thread to the ground arguing over something that is not the issue.


IT IS NOT WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT. We know Chicago has a **** load of buildings, but the poster was just remarking on how large the skyline would be and he is right, the skyline would be two or three times as large as Philly's and about the size of Chicago's.

So the ~330 buildings in Philly compared to the combined 360 in Houston is somehow 1/3rd the size get a grip HTOWN Holy crap what is in the TX water today

These are VERY simple mathmatics at play here


360 is not 3 times the size of 330 yet basically = to 1125


Yep - must be one helluva school system down there

I am paying attention and Houston is VASTLY closer as a cluster to Philly than Chicago - it isnt even close and NO Houston is NOT equal to the DT and no where even in the same planet with Chicago overall


Please show where all these buildings have popped up overnight to make Houston somehow nearly quadrouple in numbers of highrises
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Old 04-30-2012, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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It has nothing to do with size or land area. Downtown pittsburgh and oakland are the second and third largest business districts in pa. Downtowns corporate presence coupled with oaklands medical, research, university, and cultural presence seems acurate to me.
You honestly think Oakland is bigger than University City and the KOP area?
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Old 04-30-2012, 04:12 PM
 
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So the ~330 buildings in Philly compared to the combined 360 in Houston is somehow 1/3rd the size get a grip HTOWN Holy crap what is in the TX water today

These are VERY simple mathmatics at play here


360 is not 3 times the size of 330 yet basically = to 1125


Yep - must be one helluva school system down there
Kid, think of what you are saying.

if you are comparing all the buildings in both cities why combine them? Does that make sense to you? why don't you think of something first before you jump to attack it. Like it or not but if they had built all those districts together it would have been far far larger than Philly. Philly would look puny next to it, and the most comparable district the poster could have come up with was Chicago.

and yes, 190M sq feet is more than 3 times 45M sq feet.

Why would the poster use a puny example like Philly for the combined skyline comparison when with DT alone it is almost the size of Philly already?
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