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Old 05-11-2012, 11:45 AM
 
Location: plano
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The Fed Govt will spend the equivelent revenues of the 25 largest US companies

And maybe the equivelent of the 200 largest F500 cos in terms of profit; crazy

Think DC should get to count this one too
Companies add to the economy by producing goods or services that add value to the economy. DC is a leach, they get money from the states and spend it. A gov is not an fortune company they are the opposite since they take out of local economies. Gov is a necessary burden not something to count as a company
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Old 05-11-2012, 12:44 PM
 
Location: ITL (Houston)
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Houston has 14 corporate headquarters Downtown. I was surprised when i read that.
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Old 05-11-2012, 01:09 PM
 
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Exactly what I was just noticing, how mysteriously the "Bay Area" was listed as an MSA, but we all know it includes the entire CSA. While all the other metro areas, I'm assuming are just going off their MSA numbers and not combining, i.e. Washington DC MSA.
Honestly, IMHO, the Bay Area doesn't exist in real life. The Bay Area CSA consists of 6 different metros, of which IMO San Jose is the most economically significant because of Silicon Valley.

Again, not to hijack this thread, I just want to remind you that the "Bay Area" consists of these metros:

San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont, CA MSA (San Francisco, Alameda, Contra Costa, Marin, and San Mateo Counties)
San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA MSA (including San Benito County)
Santa Rosa-Petaluma, CA MSA
Vallejo-Fairfield, CA MSA
Santa Cruz-Watsonville, CA MSA
Napa, CA MSA

If we allow areas to start arbitrarily combining metro areas, then we go down the slippery slope of having designations be completely meaningless.

Let's combine

Washington DC MSA
Baltimore MSA
Philadelphia MSA
New York MSA
Hartford MSA
Boston MSA

because they all touch and are also likewise 6 metro areas.
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Old 05-11-2012, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland
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When I adjust the Financial Times 500 ranking of the World's 500 most valuable companies separating San Francisco from San Jose, we see that the Bay Area still holds 2nd and 3rd place as far total value.

And that is very impressive and I am so glad Huge Foodie 215 asked for us to make that distinction.

Thanks for looking out.

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The Financial Times(UK) ranking is based on the 500 most valuable publically traded corporations in the world based on market capitalization.

Here is how North America is represented in the most recent FT500 ranking released in March 2012:

By CSA or uncombined MSA for US "Cities"

Number of FT500 companies:
New York 38
Chicago 12
Houston 12
San Francisco 10
Toronto 9
Minneapolis 8
San Jose 8
Boston 7
Calgary 7
Los Angeles 7
Atlanta 5
Mexico City 5
Dallas 4
Montreal 4
Seattle 4
Washington DC 4
Charlotte 3
Indianapolis 3
Philadelphia 3
Vancouver 3
St Louis 3
Detroit 2
Miami 2
Omaha 2
Phoenix 2
Portland 2
Richmond 2
Winston-Salem 2
Austin 1
Allentown, PA 1
Bentonville, AR 1
Cincinnati, OH 1
Cleveland, OH 1
Columbus, GA 1
Columbus, IN 1
Columbus, OH 1
Corning, NY 1
Decatur, IL 1
Denver 1
Hartford 1
Jacksonville 1
Kalamazoo, MI 1
Las Vegas 1
Louisville 1
Memphis 1
Midland, MI 1
Milwaukee 1
Moline, IL 1
Monroe, LA 1
Oklahoma City 1
Peoria, IL 1
Pittsburgh 1
San Diego 1
Saskatoon 1
Tulsa 1
Winnipeg 1

Total Market Capitalization of FT500 companies
New York $2.586 Trillion
San Jose $1.113 Trillion
San Francisco $742 Billion
Dallas $661 Billion
Chicago $543 Billion
Houston $458 Billion
Seattle $444 Billion
Toronto $386 Billion
Atlanta $364 Billin
Minneapolis $330 Billion
Los Angeles $314 Billion
Boston $252 Billion
Omaha $252 Billion
Calgary $237 Billion
Bentonville, AR $208 Billion
Mexico City $191 Billion
Cincinnati $185 Billion
Charlotte $168 Billion
Philadelphia $155 Billion
Washington DC $126 Billion
Montreal $124 Billion
San Diego $115 Billion
Indianapolis $114 Billion
St Louis $107 Billion
Richmond $92 Billion
Detroit $86 Billion
Hartford $75 Billion
Vancouver $75 Billion
Portland $74 Billion
Peoria, IL $68 Billion
Phoenix $63 Billion
Miami $50 Billion
Winston-Salem $45 Billion
Las Vegas $42 Billion
Midland, MI $41 Billon
Saskatoon $39 Billion
Pittsburgh $34 Billion
Louisville $32 Billion
Moline, IL $32 Billion
Austin $29 Billion
Memphis $29 Billion
Oklahoma City $28 Billion
Denver $25 Billion
Columbus, IN $23 Billion
Monroe, LA $23 Billion
Winnipeg $23 Billion
Jacksonville $22 Billion
Milwaukee $22 Billion
Columbus, GA $21 Billion
Corning, NY $21 Billion
Allentown $19 Billion
Cleveland $19 Billion
Columbus, OH $18 Billion
Tulsa $18 Billion

Link:
FT.com / FTfm / FTfm - Academic raises doubts about hedge fund returns
The SF MSA will undoubtedly add Facebook(HQed in Menlo Park) later this month when it files its IPO currently estimated to be worth $90-$100 Billion.

In the meantime, here is a breakdown of companies in the SF and SJ MSA.


San Francisco: 10 companies, $742.309 Billion
10 Chevron $211.950 Billion
19 Wells Fargo $180.178 Billion
32 Oracle $145.074 Billion
103 Visa $61.985 Billion
208 Gilead Sciences $37.039 Billion
315 Franklin Resources $26.783 Billion
410 McKesson $21.600 Billlion
422 Salesforce.com $21.167 Billion
490 PG&E $18.264 Billion
491 Charles Schwab $18.269 Billion

San Jose: 8 companies, $1.113 Trillion
1 Apple $559.002 Billion
25 Google $165.414 Billion
33 Intel $140.462 Billion
49 Cisco Systems $113.912 Billion
145 eBay $47.604 Billion
148 Hewlett-Packard $47.120 Billion
414 Intuitive Surgical $21.467 Billion
483 Yahoo $18.473 Billion

Oh my, I just noticed that the combined market value of DC, Boston and Philly companies in the FT500 adds up to $533 billion, less than SJ, SF, Dallas and Chicago.

WOW.
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Old 05-11-2012, 03:33 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Huge Foodie 215 View Post
Honestly, IMHO, the Bay Area doesn't exist in real life. The Bay Area CSA consists of 6 different metros, of which IMO San Jose is the most economically significant because of Silicon Valley.

Again, not to hijack this thread, I just want to remind you that the "Bay Area" consists of these metros:

San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont, CA MSA (San Francisco, Alameda, Contra Costa, Marin, and San Mateo Counties)
San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA MSA (including San Benito County)
Santa Rosa-Petaluma, CA MSA
Vallejo-Fairfield, CA MSA
Santa Cruz-Watsonville, CA MSA
Napa, CA MSA

If we allow areas to start arbitrarily combining metro areas, then we go down the slippery slope of having designations be completely meaningless.

Let's combine

Washington DC MSA
Baltimore MSA
Philadelphia MSA
New York MSA
Hartford MSA
Boston MSA

because they all touch and are also likewise 6 metro areas.
Your ingnorance is outstanding. Have you EVER been to the Bay Area before? Also what is up with your obsession with the Bay Area....geesh.
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Old 05-11-2012, 03:51 PM
 
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When I adjust the Financial Times 500 ranking of the World's 500 most valuable companies separating San Francisco from San Jose, we see that the Bay Area still holds 2nd and 3rd place as far total value.

And that is very impressive and I am so glad Huge Foodie 215 asked for us to make that distinction.

Thanks for looking out.



The SF MSA will undoubtedly add Facebook(HQed in Menlo Park) later this month when it files its IPO currently estimated to be worth $90-$100 Billion.

In the meantime, here is a breakdown of companies in the SF and SJ MSA.


San Francisco: 10 companies, $742.309 Billion
10 Chevron $211.950 Billion
19 Wells Fargo $180.178 Billion
32 Oracle $145.074 Billion
103 Visa $61.985 Billion
208 Gilead Sciences $37.039 Billion
315 Franklin Resources $26.783 Billion
410 McKesson $21.600 Billlion
422 Salesforce.com $21.167 Billion
490 PG&E $18.264 Billion
491 Charles Schwab $18.269 Billion

San Jose: 8 companies, $1.113 Trillion
1 Apple $559.002 Billion
25 Google $165.414 Billion
33 Intel $140.462 Billion
49 Cisco Systems $113.912 Billion
145 eBay $47.604 Billion
148 Hewlett-Packard $47.120 Billion
414 Intuitive Surgical $21.467 Billion
483 Yahoo $18.473 Billion

Oh my, I just noticed that the combined market value of DC, Boston and Philly companies in the FT500 adds up to $533 billion, less than SJ, SF, Dallas and Chicago.

WOW.
Okay, can we get the original FORTUNE 500 company list with the separate MSAs?
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Old 05-11-2012, 03:56 PM
 
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Companies add to the economy by producing goods or services that add value to the economy. DC is a leach, they get money from the states and spend it. A gov is not an fortune company they are the opposite since they take out of local economies. Gov is a necessary burden not something to count as a company
What do you know, another bash the nations capital poster. Let me guess, you don't think congress should have ever made Washington DC either?

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Old 05-11-2012, 04:03 PM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland
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I remember this map I made a few years ago of Bay Area Fortune 500 companies, I should really update it.
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Old 05-11-2012, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Up on the moon laughing down on you
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I am sure you are aware the current DFW corporations are second only to New York city corporations in revenue. DFW has the headquarters of the largest corporation on the planet. I bring this up out of hesitation.
That is not what I asked so where does that you sure I know stuff is coming from.

Plus Revenue is the shidiest indicator out there.

Revenue is based on Exxon Mobile which is spread all over the world, NOT DALLAS
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Old 05-11-2012, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland
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Using BlackOut's list, I separated the SF and SJ MSAs.

(Revenues $millions)
New York City MSA - 1,816,703.10
Dallas - Fort Worth MSA 782,868.80
San Francisco MSA 607,135.0
Chicago MSA 577,969.60
Houston MSA 571,484.10
Washington D.C. MSA 481,689.60
Fayetteville–Springdale–Rogers MSA 479,216.00
Minneapolis - St. Paul MSA 465,626.50
San Jose MSA 434,527.0
Detroit MSA 392,844.10
Atlanta MSA 289,066.70

Philadelphia MSA 285,159.30
Seattle MSA - 258,636.10
Los Angeles MSA 251,637.50
Cincinnati MSA 237,942.00
Charlotte MSA 235,402.50
Bridgeport-Stamford-Norwalk MSA 215,031.30
Omaha MSA 191,995.60
San Antonio MSA 186,794.80
Boston MSA 177,242.80
Columbus MSA 169,376.30

Hartford MSA 146,323.40
St. Louis MSA 124,560.20
Providence MSA 119,025.00
Milwaukee MSA 117,816.10
Denver MSA 94,343.60
Indianapolis MSA 90,241.60
Pittsburgh MSA 90,063.10
Miami - Fort Lauderdale MSA 81,336.30
Phoenix MSA 80,062.80
Cleveland MSA 76,958.30

Memphis MSA 73,411.00
Austin MSA 72,178.80
Nashville MSA 66,026.10
Richmond MSA 56,823.20
Louisville MSA 54,981.30
Tampa–St. Petersburg MSA 49,113.80
Kansas City MSA 44,294.70
Akron MSA 39,025.00
Orlando MSA 34,679.00
Las Vegas MSA 31,364.30

Jacksonville MSA 29,584.00
Portland MSA 27,129.20
San Diego MSA 24,998.00
Virginia Beach - Norfolk MSA 24,120.90
Oklahoma City MSA 23,132.00
Tulsa MSA 23,049.20
Allentown MSA 22,838.00
Toledo MSA 20,285.00
Winston-Salem MSA 18,539.00
Raleigh MSA 16,178.80

Des Moines MSA 13,849.80


San Francisco MSA, 15 Fortune 500 companies, $607.135 Billion in revenue
3 Chevron $245.621 Billion
14 McKesson $112.084 Billion
26 Wells Fargo $87.597 Billion
63 Safeway $43.630 Billion
82 Oracle $35.622 Billion
179 PG&E $14.956 Billion
185 Gap $14.549 Billion
253 Synnex $10.409 Billion
275 URS $9.545 Billion
281 Visa $9.188 Billion
299 Ross Stores $8.608 Billion
306 Gilead Sciences $8.385 Billion
353 Franklin Resources $7.140 Billion
456 Clorox $5.326 Billion
485 Charles Schwab $4.884 Billion


San Jose MSA, 15 Fortune 500 companies, $434.527 Billion in revenue
10 Hewlett-Packard $127.245 Billion
17 Apple $108.249 Billion
51 Intel $53.999 Billion
64 Cisco Systems $43.218 Billion
73 Google $37.905 Billion
21 eBay $11.651 Billion
22 Applied Materials $10.517 Billion
38 Agilent Technologies $6.615 Billion
376 Sanmina-SCI $6.602 Billion
378 Advanced Micro Devices $6.568 Billion
391 Symantec $6.190 Billion
430 SanDisk $5.662 Billion
474 NetApp $5.122 Billion
483 Yahoo $4.984 Billion

So SF is 3rd in revenue and San Jose is 9th. WOW.


lol

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