Originally Posted by JohnnyMotts
What I find funny is that New Jersey people fight over two cities (Philly and NYC) for what city are they more like.
Fighting over two cities that arent even theirs.
Then theyll claim state pride. Cant have it both ways.
If youre that fixated on the two, why not just move to them?
It's only because Northern New Jerseyans laugh at Pennsylvania and think everybody who lives out there are hicks, while Southern New Jersey thinks that New Yorkers who visit the shore are obnoxious. It has nothing to do with choosing a city. Two major US cities border NJ with only two not very wide rivers (Hudson and Delaware) separating them from our state. The fact that these cities aren't in our state doesn't matter. We are closer to both NYC and Philly than most NY and PA towns/other cities. NJ is much smaller than both PA and NY and we don't really have a major city. Newark got overshadowed by NYC, even though it did and still does hold its own. Camden and Trenton are filled with high crime rates. NYC and Philly are the best we got in our area, why can't we be proud of that? Some people would kill to live 20 miles from Lower Manhattan like I do, while still being about 1.5 hours from Philly.
Why can't we have it both ways? Personally, I love the Jersey Shore. People from both NY and PA come to it nonstop in the summer (the parkway is FILLED with these out of staters) no matter how much they complain about us or try to "claim us" as their own, which they do more than we try to "fit in" with one of them. Don't you think that pisses us off? Hell yeah, it does. We are our own state. We can be our own state AND be proud that we live so close to 2 major major US cities that are both historic and wonderful. One of which millions of people nationwide and worldwide are dreaming of living in.
On topic, though, I don't think Orange County and North NJ are that comparable. California has so many "cities" that are really like giant NJ suburbs. You could put my whole county together as one and call it a city just because it would have a big population (millions, actually), when it would really just be a suburb of NYC. The way we organize our towns/cities is way different, and it kind of makes California look superior (because they have so many more cities than we do!) even though it's really not the case. I've never been to SoCal, but I have friends from there. I want to go, and it looks really great. Still love North NJ, though