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Old 04-24-2009, 12:34 AM
 
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Chicago is so much more vibrant than L.A. L.A isn't a bad place, its just nowhere near as good of a place as NYC or Chicago.

1.NYC by a blow out
2.Chicago
3.L.A

If Chicago didn't drop to such low temperatures four months a year, L.A wouldn't even stand a chance anywhere near Chicago. That's no excuse though, because Chicago is still better
I disagree,and I don't have anything against Chicago,I've lived there and have most my family there and my Mother came into the country through Chicago and grew up there,but Chicago is not more vibrant than L.A. in anyway and that is completely un-biased..Chicago is awesome but the surrounding area is eh,L.A. and the whole surrounding area is awesome (Santa Monica,Orange County,Hermosa Beach,Long Beach, SF Valley,etc.etc.) But Chicago? Waukegan,Joliet,Aurora?? Well too each his own,I just find it funny.
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Old 04-24-2009, 12:52 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I disagree,and I don't have anything against Chicago,I've lived there and have most my family there and my Mother came into the country through Chicago and grew up there,but Chicago is not more vibrant than L.A. in anyway and that is completely un-biased..Chicago is awesome but the surrounding area is eh,L.A. and the whole surrounding area is awesome (Santa Monica,Orange County,Hermosa Beach,Long Beach, SF Valley,etc.etc.) But Chicago? Waukegan,Joliet,Aurora?? Well too each his own,I just find it funny.
Chicago is not even on the same level as L.A. (or NY, for that matter). New York and L.A. are in their own league. And L.A. is awesome, but I'm going to have to stop saying that because I don't want too many people to realize it. Then L.A. will become overrun with other tourists who crowd me out or drive up the prices of hotel rooms; I want to have it all to myself!
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Old 04-24-2009, 02:42 AM
 
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Chicago is not even on the same level as L.A. (or NY, for that matter). New York and L.A. are in their own league. And L.A. is awesome, but I'm going to have to stop saying that because I don't want too many people to realize it. Then L.A. will become overrun with other tourists who crowd me out or drive up the prices of hotel rooms; I want to have it all to myself!
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Old 04-24-2009, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Chicago - mudhole in the prairie...
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You're so fake its ridculous. If that holds true, tell me why Chicago is one of the best 'cultural" cities on the planet, since according to you, the city is "avoided like the plauge".
a) "Chicago is one of the best "cultural" cities on the planet" - I am glad you put "cultural" in quotation marks.... Now, what exactly is Chicago's cultural contribution to the world? Oprah? Springer? Playboy?

b) Chicago IS avoided by American cultural elites like a plague hence its cultural life is mediocre. Not terrible, just mediocre. You would need elites to make it top notch.
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Old 04-24-2009, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Chicago, Illinois
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I disagree,and I don't have anything against Chicago,I've lived there and have most my family there and my Mother came into the country through Chicago and grew up there,but Chicago is not more vibrant than L.A. in anyway and that is completely un-biased..Chicago is awesome but the surrounding area is eh,L.A. and the whole surrounding area is awesome (Santa Monica,Orange County,Hermosa Beach,Long Beach, SF Valley,etc.etc.) But Chicago? Waukegan,Joliet,Aurora?? Well too each his own,I just find it funny.
well, that's because LA's downtown sucks and the skyline is pathetic for a city its' size. That's why the surrounding areas are so nice. LA is like Detroit in that way.
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Old 04-24-2009, 08:45 AM
 
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NY and L.A. are a tie, I think. Having grown up in the NYC metro area I happen to find L.A. more fun and exciting now, but that might be based on my being so used to NYC.

Chicago, I think, is a distant second to both of those cities. Chicago is a beautiful city and rich in depth, but not quite as vast or deep as NY or L.A. which are in their own class and unrivaled by any city in the US. Also, Chicago's winters are so bad that the city really suffers for it, IMHO. In NYC, there is good skiing nearby (people can even take a bus to go skiiing, a few hours away) and the winters are not nearly as harsh as Chicago's. Also, in NYC, you don't have to be outside as much as you have to be in Chicago. The subways are mostly all underground of course and the neighborhoods in NY have shops closer together so you can almost always duck into a bodega or coffee shop, almost anywhere, if you feel too cold. But it's just not as bad as Chicago, anyway.

Definitely L.A. and NYC with the edge to L.A.
But staying underground or inside is no way to spend a winter. I would rather live somewhere where I can be outside in the winter without being cold.
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Old 04-24-2009, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Chicago - mudhole in the prairie...
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well, that's because LA's downtown sucks and the skyline is pathetic for a city its' size. That's why the surrounding areas are so nice. LA is like Detroit in that way.

Skyline? Downtown? Is this what defines a city? If so, what about Paris, London, Berlin?
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Old 04-24-2009, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Chicago, Illinois
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Skyline? Downtown? Is this what defines a city? If so, what about Paris, London, Berlin?
oh yes, because american cities such as LA have the history of Paris or London, LMFAO!
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Old 04-24-2009, 10:16 AM
 
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Wrong on so many levels and without any supportive evidence these could only be conceived in a mind of a Midwesterner:
a) I am NOT from White Plains
b) I am not even close to being 12-13 years old
c) what is the connection between dementor and demean? Hint, it is from the word dementi in diplomacy...

dementor-- You are from White Plains, you are 12 years old (you're almost in the wonder years dementor!), and you have an affinity for children's petting zoos. You know I am right.

Back (somewhat) on topic ...

Like clockwork, once posts hit the ~10 page threshold on City-Data, they have signaled the end of their useful life and will ultimately sour into into a meaningless morass of subjective, offensive, demeaning, pile of sh*t opinions. (This post being a case in point.) It's at this point, the forum reverts to what I fondly call S&itty-Data. And it gets more smelly and offensive which each resulting response. There should be a natural cut-off/shut down thread point at page 10. And, in dementor's case, any time he posts.

(So I can get my next shot in in this S&itty Data thread...) Folks, for cultural entertainment options in an exciting urban core, it's something like this...

New York is about a 10. An unmatched urban vibrancy that provides the foundation for unmatched entertainment and cultural experience. It has everything in both high quantity and high quality. It's both high-brow (MOMA, MET, Getty, Philharmonic, Opera, and middle brow (Broadway, Time Square, wax museums and that ilk)
Chicago = 9. No where else beside NYC comes even remotely close for culture -- well, DC, Boston and Philadelphia may be within shouting distance. I'm talking about culture here, not porn, rap, suntanning, competive eating, celebrities, paparazzi, gnip-gnop and Hungry, Hungry Hippo duels, Grammy Museum (sorry LA-- you'll fare better in another thread). I'm referencing AIC, CSO, Lyric, Steppenwolf, Goodman, Field, MSI, Shedd, Burnham. If you don't recognize these references, shut down your computer and get back to your respective homework. Chicago is not a place for celebrities and that ilk. It's not meant to be. God forbid.
LA = 6-7. Garbage loads of middle-to-low brow entertainment option (above) and a good deal of high brow as well. Getty, Gehry, LaBrea Tar Pits, County Museum, Highway art, compeitive eating at really nice restaurants like Spaaaago and Hell's Kitchen ("what are you doing you f*ck!? This salmon is raw; it's F&*king cold! Get your head in the game!")

Either way, it's tough to beat ANY of these cities for "entertainment". They're easily the top three in the US unless you like gambling, country music, carnival rides.


We're only to page eleven. Looking forward to where this goes!
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Old 04-24-2009, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Chicago - mudhole in the prairie...
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Chicago = 9. No where else beside NYC comes even remotely close for culture -- well, DC, Boston and Philadelphia may be within shouting distance. I'm talking about culture here, not porn, rap, suntanning, competive eating, celebrities, paparazzi, gnip-gnop and Hungry, Hungry Hippo duels, Grammy Museum (sorry LA-- you'll fare better in another thread). I'm referencing AIC, CSO, Lyric, Steppenwolf, Goodman, Field, MSI, Shedd, Burnham.
Bigcake, do you really consider museums (Field) and aquariums (Shedd) "culture"? How about art galleries, happenings, live events, publications? What exactly are Chicago's contributions to national and international cultural life?

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If you don't recognize these references, shut down your computer and get back to your respective homework. Chicago is not a place for celebrities and that ilk. It's not meant to be. God forbid.
Really? Do you mean Chicago was purposefully designed to be a mediocre, run of the mill unappealing city it is? Now I understand, Chicago does not repell cultural elites by being uninspiring and boring but simply because it is not designed to be appealing. Gross by design. Now seriously do you really mean that you wouldn't like to have acclaimed directors, singers, actors, media personalities living in Chicago and contributing to its cultural lfe? Why? Do you really enjoy being mediocre? We are talking culture on a national international level and not perfromances in local high schools...

You can't have it both ways: either you are a boring, uninspiring peepsqeak boasting traditional Midwestern values or you have a thriving and vibrant cultural life. It sounds to me that you are trying to have both.
Ain't gonna happen.

PS. I ignored dumber parts of your post.
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