!NOT! another "SF vs. Philly" Poll (highest, districts, living)

[scrantiX]

Originally Posted by rainrock

Keep in mind that the northeast and northwest sections of Philadelphia are a combination of forest,parkland and suburbia.

The urban core of Philadelphia places like Center City have density populations of 30,000 ppsq.mi.. South,North and West Philly 20,000 ppsqmi..

I have been to Phily before and it feels real dense and urban. I would say its 5th behind NYC, LA, San Francisco, and Chicago.

Also have been to Boston which is an overrated city in this discussion. The density of San Francisco and Phily blow Boston away and smash it to smithereens. Quote me on it, SMITHEREENS.

[Summersm343]

Originally Posted by scrantiX

I have been to Phily before and it feels real dense and urban. I would say its 5th behind NYC, LA, San Francisco, and Chicago.

Also have been to Boston which is an overrated city in this discussion. The density of San Francisco and Phily blow Boston away and smash it to smithereens. Quote me on it, SMITHEREENS.

I think Philly is and feels more urban and dense than LA... LA never felt really dense to me and very un-urban in a lot of sections. Agree on the rest though.

[PITTSTON2SARASOTA]

San Francisco Versus Philadelphia

[LakeShoreSoxGo]

Well seeing as how San Francisco's community college might get slated for closure due to inefficiency, Philly might have a leg up in education. Throw in the reality that California's k-12 is worse than PA's and Philly has Wharton and it's over.

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by LakeShoreSoxGo

Well seeing as how San Francisco's community college might get slated for closure due to inefficiency, Philly might have a leg up in education. Throw in the reality that California's k-12 is worse than PA's and Philly has Wharton and it's over.

Blah Blah Blah.

SF is so appealing to Wharton that they have a campus in SF, and SFs best K-12s stomp all over Philadelphia's best K-12s.

Next.

[kidphilly]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

Blah Blah Blah.

SF is so appealing to Wharton that they have a campus in SF, and SFs best K-12s stomp all over Philadelphia's best K-12s.

Next.

are you certain on that?

On the whole though the public (inner city meaning city of Philadelphia) school system has many issues; the burbs and magnet schools are tremendous

Masterman and Penn Charter (within the city limits, not to mention one of the best perfoming arts high schools, probably #2 after NYC) are among the best public schools in the country. If you go to private schools Philly and the are also have some of the best in the country, as do SF. Both these areas are among the best in the country though overall in education

[scrantiX]

Originally Posted by kidphilly

are you certain on that?

He's certain on that.

American Indian Public
Pacific Collegiate
Henry M. Gunn
Mission San Jose
Monta Vista
Lynbrook
Saratoga
America

No top 100 high schools in Delaware valley

On the whole though the public (inner city meaning city of Philadelphia) school system has many issues; the burbs and magnet schools are tremendous

Not tremendous enough apparently.

Masterman and Penn Charter (within the city limits, not to mention one of the best perfoming arts high schools, probably #2 after NYC) are among the best public schools in the country.

In your opinion.

Both these areas are among the best in the country though overall in education

No, the San Francisco area is among the best, the Phily area does not place.

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[scrantiX]

Top 100 from another list 2012 edition

Pacific Collegiate
Roseland University prep
Lowell
Mission San Jose
American Indian
Summit Preparatory
Monta Vista

Charter School of Wilmington
Julia R. Masterman Laboratory and Demonstration School

Best High Schools Rankings | Top High Schools | US News

[Summersm343]

Huh.... that's funny. Because in this graph of best educated states in the U.S.... Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Delaware and Maryland all rank higher than California... in fact, California is down near the bottom of the list..

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In fact here's another one... where California received an overall grade of C

Delaware received a C+
Maryland a B+
New Jersey a B-
and Pennsylvania a B-

http://www.edweek.org/media/ew/qc/20...essRelease.pdf

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Another map shows PA,MD, and DE in the middle states while NJ is in the top 10 states for education...where is California? In the bottom 10...

Who's On Top? Color-Coded Maps Rank States' Education Performance - Education - GOOD

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See how stupid this argument is? IDK what's up with your lists but I know NJ has some of the best schools in the US and some of the schools in Bucks County, Montgomery County and Chester County, PA are some of the best in the US and the list names Masterman? LOL! Masterman is good but there are far better schools in the Philly metro than Masterman.

In fact... this list from 2009 ranking Philly area schools has 7 school listed before Masterman

Philadelphia Magazine

So... whoever did those lists you posted must have not done their research...or they just didn't include any of the suburban schools surrounding Philly.

[scrantiX]

Originally Posted by Summersm343

Huh.... that's funny. Because in this graph of best educated states in the U.S.... Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Delaware and Maryland all rank higher than California... in fact, California is down near the bottom of the list..

I don't know Summers but I am pretty sure that San Francisco and the bay don't include all of California. Isn't this a comparison of San Francisco and the bay vs Phily and Delaware valley?

In fact here's another one... where California received an overall grade of C

Delaware received a C+
Maryland a B+
New Jersey a B-
and Pennsylvania a B-

http://www.edweek.org/media/ew/qc/20...essRelease.pdf

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LOL you must realize that you're citing states not cities, not metros, not even high schools lol. This is San Francisco vs Phily, as in the bay vs Delaware valley. So what's all this state nonsense meant to prove?

See how stupid this argument is?

No. The lists I posted are credible. The top high schools placed in that order all have selective enrollment, low to no drop out rates, perfect test scores from all students, and the ability of a student to move on to a acclaimed 4 year university.

So... whoever did those lists you posted must have not done their research...or they just didn't include any of the suburban schools surrounding Philly.

Same people that make college lists. People who look at the quality of education these high schools produce and the bay has 7 in the top 100 on both lists and Phily's best chance is 2. Summers why don't you show me another recent list that shows the top 100 high schools in the US with Phily standing by San Francisco.

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