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View Poll Results: Premier US city without NYC
Washington, DC 38 8.00%
Boston 19 4.00%
Philadelphia 73 15.37%
Chicago 179 37.68%
Los Angeles 142 29.89%
San Francisco 24 5.05%
Voters: 475. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-02-2013, 10:16 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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CNN primarily broadcasts from its CNN Center in Atlanta, the Time Warner Center in New York City, and studios in Washington, D.C., and Los Angeles. The CNN headquarters is in Atlanta which would then become the country's largest news network minus NYC's ABC,CBS,MSNBC, FOX, Time Warner etc.. Most of the broadcasting is done out of Atlanta along with the Weather Channel which is also based there. The largest major TV network out of DC would be CSPAN which mainly focuses on national political issues but doesn't cover as much variety as CNN.
CNN is a relatively recent phenomenon.

If the radio/tv networks didnt start in NY, they would have started somewhere else and I dont think it would have been Atlanta.

Probably somewhere in the Northeast.
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Old 08-02-2013, 10:20 PM
 
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Discovery Communications is in DC with like 25-30 cable channels as well as PBS, BET, National Geographic and the Travel Channel. All separate entities.
Those aren't news specific channels. PBS isn't 24 hr news like CNN. CNN is also more global
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Old 08-02-2013, 10:27 PM
 
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CNN is a relatively recent phenomenon.

If the radio/tv networks didnt start in NY, they would have started somewhere else and I dont think it would have been Atlanta.

Probably somewhere in the Northeast.
32 years isn't really recent. When CNN started TV wasn't that old either. Historically, if NYC never existed that's possible but if it disappeared today CNN would then become the nation's largest news channel. CNN is all over the world what BBC is to the UK. PBS with Jim...nope.
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Old 08-02-2013, 10:48 PM
 
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32 years isn't really recent. When CNN started TV wasn't that old either. Historically, if NYC never existed that's possible but if it disappeared today CNN would then become the nation's largest news channel. CNN is all over the world what BBC is to the UK. PBS with Jim...nope.
No, if NYC disappeared today, NBC is owned by Philadelphia-based Comcast and ABC is owned by Los Angeles-based Walt Disney, trust me, those massive news organizations are not going to cease operations just because NY is gone.

As far as the historical scenario, when CNN came along, tv news was already an established medium. It's fallable imo to think that if NY never existed that the US would have no national tv news until 1980. lol
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Old 08-02-2013, 11:07 PM
 
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The birth and growth of the US shows that there are large cities on the east coast and only one became dominant. If NYC had not, it is almost certain that either Boston or Philadelphia would have become that dominant city. Whether Boston or Philly became as dominant a city as NYC no one can say. Whether LA or SF would have become the dominant city on the west coast in the 20th century is even less certain. The idea that we can go backwards from what we have now and claim LA would be even bigger than it is much less plausible than either Boston or Philly would be a very large, dominant city.
The 5 main North Atlantic cities actually represented distinct cultures (colonies) before British Empire's annexation of the 1700s. New Netherland's capital was New Amsterdam, the Massachusetts Bay Colony was headed by Boston, and William Penn's colony was the city of Brotherly Love - Philadelphia. Cecilius Calvert (Lord Baltimore) founded a Catholic colony with the main port being in his namesake's city. D.C. was more of a formally-planned city after the existence of the United States of America was established. It would not have existed at all if the colonies didn't unite against George III. I don't think the existence of one would have interfered with the existence of the others. New York's main cause of growth was the Hudson River canal linking it to the older New France trade routes, followed by the Dutch commercial ethic.
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Old 08-02-2013, 11:07 PM
 
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No, if NYC disappeared today, NBC is owned by Philadelphia-based Comcast and ABC is owned by Los Angeles-based Walt Disney, trust me, those massive news organizations are not going to cease operations just because NY is gone.

As far as the historical scenario, when CNN came along, tv news was already an established medium. It's fallable imo to think that if NY never existed that the US would have no national tv news until 1980. lol
ABC,CBS and NBC are no longer the only news networks that people watch anymore that's why we have other networks like FOX and CNN. Trust me we don't live in an age where it's just the big 3 anymore. ABC and NBC lost that monopoly a long time ago. CNN was the first 24 hours news channel network.
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Old 08-02-2013, 11:09 PM
 
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ABC,CBS and NBC are no longer the only news networks that people watch anymore that's why we have other networks like FOX and CNN. Trust me don't live in an age where it's just the big 3 anymore. ABC and NBC lost that monopoly a long time ago.
I'm pretty sure he knows that. He is taking a historical point of view. CNN didn't just pop up out of nowhere.
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Old 08-02-2013, 11:29 PM
 
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I'm going to have to say it would be a toss up between LA and Chicago.
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Old 08-02-2013, 11:54 PM
 
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ABC,CBS and NBC are no longer the only news networks that people watch anymore that's why we have other networks like FOX and CNN.
Okay, but the point is there was tv news prior to CNN-fyi.

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Trust me we don't live in an age where it's just the big 3 anymore. ABC and NBC lost that monopoly a long time ago.
Yes but they still have the most viewers.

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CNN was the first 24 hours news channel network.
Yes but what relevance does this have to the thread?

If New York never existed, chances are tv news would have been established elsewhere in the Northeast.

If New York disappeared today, network and cable news networks previously in NY would move somewhere else.

Furthermore, Fox has the 13 highest rated cable news shows, not CNN.
Cable News Ratings: Top 30 Programs For July 2013
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Old 08-03-2013, 12:09 AM
 
Location: Hollywood, CA
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I'd would be LA, with Chicago being a close second. Philly would be the top city in the Northeast.
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