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Old 11-27-2012, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL/Houston, TX
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Walk access to transit is preferable for several reasons. If somebody can walk to transit, they may be able to not have a car, or only have, say, one car for two adults. Walk access is better environmentally, most of the pollution cars generate is when they first start up. It also means that transit stations don't have to have these big moats of parking around them, and use up a bunch of land.

Ridership is a good metric, but service is even better. How much transit service did the transit agency make available? So here is annual transit vehicle miles per capita for the big urbanized areas (from the APTA fact book). It includes all systems serving the area. Each bus or train car counts as one vehicle.

Urbanized Area Vehicle Miles Per Capita
1. New York 51.9
2. San Francisco-Oakland 45.2 (does not include San Jose)
3. Washington 41.9
4. Honolulu 39.2
5. Seattle 38.8
6. Salt Lake City 35.9
7. Denver 28.7
8. Chicago 27.9
9. Portland 27.4
10 Boston 25.9
11. Minneapolis-St. Paul 23.6
12. Pittsburgh 22.8
12. San Antonio 22.8
14, Philadelphia 21.7
15. Los Angeles 21.5
16. Charlotte 21.1
17. Austin 20.9
18. Atlanta 20.8
(all UZAs with over 500,000 population and 20 vehicle miles per capita included)

Mostly, not a real surprising list. Salt Lake City, Denver, and Charlotte have all been developing/expanding light rail. I suspect that Philadelphia's relatively poor showing has to do with weak service levels in the suburbs. Atlanta is known for having a weak bus network connecting to its heavy rail, probably accounting for its relatively weak showing.

You could say that the top 10 cities on this list are the top 10 transit cities.
Yeah...no. That list isn't very good aside from NYC at 1 to say those are the top 10 transit cities.
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Old 10-17-2013, 09:41 AM
 
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An update on a few transit projects about to open in D.C.:

It’s going to be an exciting 6 months for DC area transit - Greater Greater Washington

First D.C. Streetcar Line Opens at the End of this Year
DC Streetcar – New Light Rail System in Washington DC

Weekend MARC Commuter Train Service Starts in December
First look at MARC weekend schedules

BRT (Grade Separated) Line in Arlington and Alexandria Under Construction
BRT Service Coming to Crystal City Next Year | ARLnow.com

Silver Metro Line Opens in a Few Months
1st Phase of Metro’s Silver Line to Open in Early 2014 CBS DC

Second 9 Mile D.C. Streetcar Line in Planning Phase
D.C. To Start Study Of Nine-Mile Streetcar Line From Buzzard Point To Takoma | WAMU 88.5 - American University Radio

Purple Line is Expected to Start Construction in 2015
Purple Line: Public-private transit partnership would be one of the broadest in U.S. - The Washington Post
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Old 10-17-2013, 09:49 AM
 
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The First 22 miles of the 37 mile Streetcar system is expected to be built out by 2020/2021:

It's 5 years for streetcar construction once planning is done - Greater Greater Washington
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Old 10-17-2013, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Georgia
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1. NYC
2. Chicago
3. SF
4. D.C.
5. Boston
6. Philly
7. Atlanta
8. Miami
9. Los Angeles
10. Seattle
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Old 10-17-2013, 10:16 AM
 
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Originally Posted by mhans123 View Post
1. NYC
2. Chicago
3. SF
4. D.C.
5. Boston
6. Philly
7. Atlanta
8. Miami
9. Los Angeles
10. Seattle
1. NYC
2. Chicago
3. DC
4. Boston
5. SF
6. Philly
7. Los Angeles
8. Seattle
9. Atlanta
10. Miami

Fixed it for ya
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Old 10-17-2013, 10:29 AM
 
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1. NYC
2. Chicago
3. DC
4. Philly
5. San Fran
6. Atlanta
7. LA
8. Dallas
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Old 10-17-2013, 11:48 AM
 
Location: New Orleans
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Originally Posted by mhans123 View Post
1. NYC
2. Chicago
3. SF
4. D.C.
5. Boston
6. Philly
7. Atlanta
8. Miami
9. Los Angeles
10. Seattle
How the HELL is Miami & Atlanta above LA?
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Old 10-17-2013, 11:49 AM
 
Location: The City
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1. NYC
2. Chicago
3. DC
4. Philly
5. San Fran
6. Atlanta
7. LA
8. Dallas

Move LA up one and Boston ahead of Philly - then after LA its a crap shoot
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Old 10-17-2013, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Now that I've been to most of these cities, here is an accurate list:

1. NYC
2. D.C.
3. Chicago
4. Boston
5. Philly
6. San Francisco
7. LA
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Old 10-17-2013, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Philadelphian-transplant from Miami
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Based on my experience living in 3 cities:

Even though I consider Miami my hometown, it has one of the crappiest METRORAIL system. It is only one line (sans the MetroMover), and it does not extend to certain areas alot of people need to go. (Miami Beach? for example). And in times, they don;t take you right into the destination area. Like if you want to go to Coconut Grove, you still have to walk extensively / wait for the bus at the train station. (I heard they extended to the airport now, which is good though!)

Philadelphia has great transit system. I barely use my car nowadays. Although in last several months, there has been talk that SEPTA might cut several lines due to lack of funds. (I hope not!). I think I am almost ready to sell my car now!

Atlanta has an OK MARTA system. It takes you to places, but it is not as extensive as SEPTA. It took me to destinations I needed to go back then in college, namely Lenox Square/Phipps PLaza area, Midtown and Perimeter Mall.
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