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Old 12-16-2013, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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That's a huge lot? It's like 30 parking spots. Go read my post from about 5 pages ago. I said between 20 spots at Forest Glen. Show me a huge parking lot. Bethesda, Silver Spring, Ballston, Rosslyn, Pentagon City, Crystal City, etc... Forest Glen is not urban. It's in a residential neighborhood. LLS This is comical.
There are like 200 parking spots (that being a very conservative estimate), what are you looking at? One row has 30 spots.

Do you not see the massive parking lot to the north west of the station?

Here is the link again, take a second look: http://goo.gl/maps/xaHXK

And just to clarify that big parking lot is Metro-owned: http://goo.gl/maps/S82W
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Old 12-16-2013, 02:15 PM
 
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Haha that's about it. That's not a lot for a metro of 7 million.
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Old 12-16-2013, 02:15 PM
 
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Why is the burden of proof on me? You are the one claiming that no one drives or parks in the suburbs. If you make an outlandish claim, the burden is on you to prove that Northern VA doesn't use cars or parking.

Go to Braddock Road yourself, park there, and find out. It's just east of the station.
LOL - you lose. If there was one you would find out where it is, but you can't because there isn't one. Sorry buddy.
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Old 12-16-2013, 02:15 PM
 
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I know you don't work in this profession so I will explain how it works. Zoning laws are designed to dictate what must be included in a building. Buildings have a certain required amount of parking that is included for every building constructed unless they receive a variance that says they don't need to include parking. Office buildings then fill the left over parking spaces with visitors to that prospective downtown since very few garages are ever full from actual office workers. Zoning codes are very outdated and they are being rewritten across the nation right now.
Zoning codes or not the fact remains that the office parks around DC have them and are utilized quite heavily.
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Old 12-16-2013, 02:15 PM
 
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Who's comparing it to Manhattan? These places aren't even Evanston or Pasadena.

Rossyln dies after 6 pm. What are you talking about? I'll give you Clarendon. That's it. Ballston gets pretty damn quiet after 6 pm too.
So Silver Spring is not vibrant for a suburb? Bethesda is not? Evanston can't compete with DC suburbs for TOD.
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Old 12-16-2013, 02:16 PM
 
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No, but Evanston is more active. So is Pasadena, downtown Santa Monica, etc. TOD isn't everything.
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Old 12-16-2013, 02:17 PM
 
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So Silver Spring is not vibrant for a suburb? Bethesda is not? Evanston can't compete with DC suburbs for TOD.
How vibrant is Bethesda outside of metro stops? Lol. I've been there many times. A place like Santa Monica is more than just a few blocks in it's downtown area.
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Old 12-16-2013, 02:17 PM
 
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The only one making idiotic statements is you. You obviously don't know the first thing about any of these places. You've probably looked up the shopping mall websites and assumed they must be great because they have a Neiman Marcus. Some of the biggest and best malls in the NYC area attract a huge influx of ghetto crowd.
No, actually, I used to live close to White Plains, and I think it's hilarious that you think Saks and Neiman Marcus and the Ritz Carlton and multimillion condos "attract a huge influx of ghetto crowd", while simultaneously claiming that the rundown Ballston Common mall in Ballston, with the closed Sears and rundown food court, is very upscale.
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New Rochelle has one nice, modern apt building - Trump Tower. Its retail district is run-down and dilapidated. Stamford is not much better (though its mall is fairly decent).
No, New Rochelle has many nice, modern apartment buildings. Trump Tower is not even a regular apartment building, and is not the largest or newest. Retail in New Rochelle is vastly better than in Ballston or Bethesda (Bethesda barely has retail to even compete).

And Stamford? They're building 10,000 apartments in one development alone. Stamford blows anything in DC out of the water. They have the world's largest hedge fund, the world's largest trading floor, etc.

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As for White Plains - it has better housing stock downtown and, as I said, it is probably the closest you are gonna get in the NY metro to a Bethesda, but it's still not as nice. Its malls attract a lot of trashy people from surrounding towns (Yonkers, Mt Vernon, etc); its restaurant scene is not nearly as nice; and it doesn't have as many luxury, amenity-laden apt buildings.
This is all wrong. White Plains has more luxury type apartment buildings than Ballston or Bethesda, has far more restaurants and shopping, and does not attract lots of trashy people. You're just making up stuff because you got caught finding that NYC area does have more urban suburbs, then whatever urban suburb I name you will automatically call "ghetto" to disqualify.

How about these suburbs? All nicer than Bethesda or Ballston, all have lots of nice apartments, restaurants and the like, and I'm only looking at Westchester and Fairfield counties. Are you going to claim these are too ghetto too?

Greenwich
Darien
Westport
New Canaan
Rye
Scarsdale
Hartsdale
Larchmont
Mamaroneck
Bronxville
Tuckahoe
Dobbs Ferry
Pelham
Tarrytown
Hastings
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Old 12-16-2013, 02:18 PM
 
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There are like 200 parking spots (that being a very conservative estimate), what are you looking at? One row has 30 spots.

Do you not see the massive parking lot to the north west of the station?

Here is the link again, take a second look: http://goo.gl/maps/xaHXK

And just to clarify that big parking lot is Metro-owned: http://goo.gl/maps/S82W
I couldn't see your pic fully. Forest Glen is a residential station. I will give you that. It has parking spots. But 200 is not a lot. Now show me Silver Spring, Bethesda, and the rest that are in question. Forest Glen is not TOD.
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Old 12-16-2013, 02:19 PM
 
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Nobody goes to these places after work hours. Go to Rossyln and Crystal City lol. There's nobody there!
There's hardly anyone in Ballston. Arlington gets so quiet when nobody is coming to and from work. You would think with their residential density around the metro stops, these places would always be vibrant.

THIS ISN'T TRUE AT ALL.

The D.C. proper core is more vibrant and way more urban than any area anywhere in L.A.
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