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Old 12-16-2013, 03:42 PM
 
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Who has been talking about the rest of Bethesda? Or the rest of Silver Spring?
That is where people actually live. 90% of Bethesda is the part outside downtown.

Who cares about a few blocks of condo boxes? That isn't the typical Bethesda, or Silver Spring. In fact, in Silver Spring, it's considered the "bad" area.
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Old 12-16-2013, 03:43 PM
 
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Isnt't that more dense than DC? Or close to it?
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Old 12-16-2013, 03:44 PM
 
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Pentagon City has a density of 12,000. That is awful.

Crystal City has a tiny sliver that 52,000 next to an 11,000 tract. When all of them are 50,000, that is when it will change. That means tract, after tract, after tract.

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Dude. There's always been residential there. I've been there dozens of times since the 1990s. There's nothing to walk to. It's not just about density.

Do you honestly think people are going to be walking all around these dead zones in CC and Tysons for fun? Seriously?
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Old 12-16-2013, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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That is where people actually live. 90% of Bethesda is the part outside downtown.

Who cares about a few blocks of condo boxes? That isn't the typical Bethesda, or Silver Spring. In fact, in Silver Spring, it's considered the "bad" area.



LOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You need to visit Silver Spring in 2013.


As for Bethesda, who cares about the people who don't live in downtown Bethesda? What is the difference between them and people in Frederick? The only people that matter are those that live in the downtown towers. The same goes for D.C. Who cares about people who live in the single family homes in upper NW D.C.? They have nothing in common with people who like an urban lifestyle.
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Old 12-16-2013, 03:47 PM
 
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The only people that matter? That's a bizarre statement.

So 99% of residents in DC Metro don't matter. Got it.
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Old 12-16-2013, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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Dude. There's always been residential there. I've been there dozens of times since the 1990s. There's nothing to walk to. It's not just about density.

Do you honestly think people are going to be walking all around these dead zones in CC and Tysons for fun? Seriously?

What, redevelopment changes all that. You must be under the impression these buildings will all remain. Crystal City is getting redone.
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Old 12-16-2013, 03:48 PM
 
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As for Bethesda, who cares about the people who don't live in downtown Bethesda? What is the difference between them and people in Frederick? The only people that matter are those that live in the downtown towers. The same goes for D.C. Who cares about people who live in the single family homes in upper NW D.C.? They have nothing in common with people who like an urban lifestyle.
Using this logic, Phoenix is as urban as NYC, because we are only to count the 1% of people in Phoenix living an urban lifestyle, and ignore the other 99%.

No, obviously we include everyone when looking at relative urbanity. Bethesda isn't urban, because most people live in sprawl. We don't just count the people living an urban lifestyle.
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Old 12-16-2013, 03:49 PM
 
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The only people that matter? That's a bizarre statement.

So 99% of residents in DC Metro don't matter. Got it.

Ummm.....WAYYYYYY more than 99% of people in the D.C. metro area live in urban area's. Shoot, about 200,000 people live within one mile of downtown D.C. which is all urban 100%.
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Old 12-16-2013, 03:50 PM
 
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Wouldn't you agree that my criteria is pretty widely accepted including in L.A. L.A. is building exactly to my criteria now. How can you discount what my criteria is even as the entire country from Tulsa to Fargo are building this way now. The BOS-WASH corridor just has a couple hundred year head start on the rest of the nation but everyone is headed in the same direction.
Probably as a rough partial guideline. What matters also is how people actually use it. LA has some pretty good examples of crap design gone through heavy usage due to the population density and the background of the people living there (LA has large populations of people who come from far more bustling urban areas who in some ways make do with what there is which is probably why food trucks took off the way they did in LA).
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Old 12-16-2013, 03:51 PM
 
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Using this logic, Phoenix is as urban as NYC, because we are only to count the 1% of people in Phoenix living an urban lifestyle, and ignore the other 99%.

No, obviously we include everyone when looking at relative urbanity. Bethesda isn't urban, because most people live in sprawl. We don't just count the people living an urban lifestyle.
LOL yeah, he excludes only to benefit his views
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