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View Poll Results: Most hedonistic?
Miami 21 23.33%
Las Vegas 45 50.00%
NYC 1 1.11%
San Francisco 13 14.44%
LA 4 4.44%
Other 6 6.67%
Voters: 90. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-08-2013, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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The strip has a crazy police presence during busy (well, busier) season.
Absolutely, and even in off-season there's a strong presence in addition to all the cameras/strongarmed bouncers where everyone's hanging out (casinos). I'm sorry, but a strong presence by armed police does not spell hedonism for me, it's quite the opposite in terms of atmosphere. "Spend your money, pick up a hooker, whatever, just do it our way and pay for it and you're fine." I think people just buy into the marketing - "what happens in Vegas" and etc - not the actual experience.

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I'd actually have to put Miami ahead of Vegas in this category. Isn't it all about lounging at the beach in your men's speedo bathing suit, hanging out at patio bars, heavy drinking and parting at those infamous nightclubs? I know they can party hard in LV too but you have an entertainment industry backing it up (and good buffets too). I could spend a weekend in LV sober and still have a great time. And most of LV is just middle class suburbia, like Phoenix. A lot of CA transplants coming there for cheaper cost of living.
Right, the closest you can get to non-US definitions of hedonism (I'm with all the people remarking that this is near-impossible in the States) is a place like Miami. Vegas is fully concentrated Ugly America surrounded by Sunbelt suburbs.
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Old 08-08-2013, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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With regards to the police precense--I've gotten sloppy drunk in Vegas many times, and have never been so been so much as warned by police to calm down. I've never been thrown out of a casino for being to drunk either. As long as you don't rob the casino, nobody cares what you do.

This really isn't much of a competition either. Las Vegas, along the 4-mile strip, is the one true 24-hour environment we have in America on a meaningful scale. It was built on hedonism. It's called Sin City for a reason. Every vice is catered to, overtly.
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Old 08-08-2013, 09:51 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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I'd actually have to put Miami ahead of Vegas in this category. Isn't it all about lounging at the beach in your men's speedo bathing suit, hanging out at patio bars, heavy drinking and parting at those infamous nightclubs? I know they can party hard in LV too but you have an entertainment industry backing it up (and good buffets too). I could spend a weekend in LV sober and still have a great time. And most of LV is just middle class suburbia, like Phoenix. A lot of CA transplants coming there for cheaper cost of living.

As for the other cities, there's nothing hedonistic about them.
And what exactly would you call Miami outside of Miami Beach? Is there something "hedonistic" about Hialeah?

I'd think it would be much easier to spend a weekend sober in Miami with the beach and watersports than Vegas, where it's much cheaper to drink.
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Old 08-08-2013, 09:55 AM
 
Location: The big blue yonder...
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I'd have to stick with LV with this simply because of the way that a lot of people go there already thinking "what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas..." more so than any other city.
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Old 08-08-2013, 10:05 AM
 
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So that slogan actually means something to people? Even in this day and age?
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Old 08-08-2013, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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It's called Sin City for a reason. Every vice is catered to, overtly.
Lots of cities had similar appellations for specific neighborhoods, "Sin City" was just more effectively marketed.

I know it's changed a bit recently, but try buying weed on the strip (for one example). Anything that cripples local $$$s is frowned upon, and people smoking weed aren't buying as much alcohol. Every "vice" catered to adds to local coffers, any "vice" that doesn't is strongarmed.

That's exactly what I'm talking about, it's effectively marketed itself as something it's not in reality (at least, not to the extent it wants you to believe), and in reality it isn't at all "live and let live" (true hedonism), it's "what's your weakness, and how can we strip the most money from you exploiting said weaknesses or MOVE ALONG BUDDY." Totally different vibe from truly hedonistic spots around the globe.
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Old 08-08-2013, 10:13 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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I know it's changed a bit recently, but try buying weed on the strip (for one example). Anything that cripples local $$$s is frowned upon, and people smoking weed aren't buying as much alcohol. Every "vice" catered to adds to local coffers, any "vice" that doesn't is strongarmed.
How does illegal prostitution, which is blatantly allowed, add to local coffers?

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That's exactly what I'm talking about, it's effectively marketed itself as something it's not in reality (at least, not to the extent it wants you to believe), and in reality it isn't at all "live and let live" (true hedonism), it's "what's your weakness, and how can we strip the most money from you exploiting said weaknesses or MOVE ALONG BUDDY." Totally different vibe from truly hedonistic spots around the globe.
Vegas allows people to indulge in more vices, legally and some illegally, than any other city in America, including Miami though.
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Old 08-08-2013, 12:58 PM
 
Location: New Orleans
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Have to think we give Vegas a run for its money... I know of only one other city (Ormond Beach, FL) that's not based on casinos that allows 24-hour alcohol service, 24/7/365. I can walk to the other end of my block and be in a 24-hour bar, and I live 3 miles or so from Bourbon-in other words, off the beaten path by quite a bit.
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Old 08-08-2013, 01:23 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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From the poll options...

1. Las Vegas

(big gap)

2. Miami
3. LA
4. NYC
5. SF

New Orleans is missing though.
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Old 08-08-2013, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Glendale, CA
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Yeah, it's Vegas. Hell, we had bottle service at one of the clubs there and we were offered both prostitutes and cocaine by our server.

No, we did not partake in either.

But seriously, it's Vegas.
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