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I mean if anyone actually studied the OP's post and the history of every American river city, you'd know that the only cities that should even be in this discussion right now in terms of history, influence on the city, amenities, etc, should be those along the Missouri, Mississippi, and Ohio Rivers, and possibly a few exceptions:
New York City
Pittsburgh
Cincinnati
Louisville
St. Louis
Minneapolis-St. Paul
Kansas City
Memphis
New Orleans
These are cities where the river not only MADE the city, it had a significant impact on making the USA grow and prosper, and also the WORLD! Again, with a few small exceptions, these are the MAJOR influential river cities in this country, and everything else is either a novelty or something man-made or recently influential. Those exceptions could include Chicago (Chicago/Fox Rivers mostly an amenity, but carry cargo and industry to far reaches of the metro region), Sacramento (connects to the SF Bay and Pacific Rim), Philly or D.C.
I mean if anyone actually studied the OP's post and the history of every American river city, you'd know that the only cities that should even be in this discussion right now in terms of history, influence on the city, amenities, etc, should be those along the Missouri, Mississippi, and Ohio Rivers, and possibly a few exceptions:
New York City
Pittsburgh
Cincinnati
Louisville
St. Louis
Minneapolis-St. Paul
Kansas City
Memphis
New Orleans
These are cities where the river not only MADE the city, it had a significant impact on making the USA grow and prosper, and also the WORLD! Again, with a few small exceptions, these are the MAJOR influential river cities in this country, and everything else is either a novelty or something man-made or recently influential. Those exceptions could include Chicago (Chicago/Fox Rivers mostly an amenity, but carry cargo and industry to far reaches of the metro region), Sacramento (connects to the SF Bay and Pacific Rim), Philly or D.C.
Philly is absolutely a city here because of the river and seaport? am confused by that as its history is a tied to the river and seaport as much as NYC would be
The broader port of Philly is still one of the largest in the country, nearly the size in tonnage to the port of NY today
Haven't seen anyone post any pictures here yet that rival the ambiance and intimacy of the San Antonio River Walk, this vote should not even be close. It's one think to put down a walking trail along a river bank, quite another to build what they have in San Antonio.
Philly is absolutely a city here because of the river and seaport? am confused by that as its history is a tied to the river and seaport as much as NYC would be
The broader port of Philly is still one of the largest in the country, nearly the size in tonnage to the port of NY today
it's a seaport though....you can't have it both ways. Philly is not a port because of the river, it's a port because of the sea. I'm not saying the river isn't used as well for freight but without the ocean access Philly's shipping industry would be a shadow of its present self!
In NYC's case the rivers actually connect to the Great Lakes system, so that connection ties NYC to the entire Upper Midwest and Great Lakes. The freight can come in from the sea AND from the Midwest, whereas Philly's is mostly/exclusively from the sea. NYC's river system and canal system to the Great Lakes is also a historical landmark in making America as prosperous as it is today -- it was probably THE most important infrastructure project in this country's history, up there with connecting the railroads coast to coast and the Interstate Highway System. Besides, it's my personal opinion and I don't know enough about Philly or D.C. to say they are certainly or certainly not river cities.
Haven't seen anyone post any pictures here yet that rival the ambiance and intimacy of the San Antonio River Walk, this vote should not even be close. It's one think to put down a walking trail along a river bank, quite another to build what they have in San Antonio.
I've been there. It's lame, it's not historically significant, it doesn't affect anyone outside of the immediate area other than tourists for a few hours. It shouldn't even be on the list!
I've been there. It's lame, it's not historically significant, it doesn't affect anyone outside of the immediate area other than tourists for a few hours. It shouldn't even be on the list!
A better question might be: "do master plans or visions count?", because that's what that looks like.
Will see, the waterfront has been largely under utilized. I95 is like a moat seerating the city. The next 20-30 years will tell. There are currently a few of these projects complete and about 5 resdiential new buildings about to break ground (most just approved in the last 2 months)
We will see, this area is not anywhere near the best but has potential and could hold another 100K resdients in 20 years. Hopefully it will be reconnected.
I know, I feel like I'm the only person who didn't fall in love with San Antonio's Riverwalk. It just seemed so.......lame is the best word I can use to describe it.
Besides, I took the OP's post a little more broad-reaching than I think most of you are. San Anotonio is not the city it is today because of its river (or the man-made/redesigned Riverwalk). Some river cities like St. Louis, Cincy, Memphis, New Orleans, Pittsburgh, etc. are so influentially tied to the river in comparison to cities like San Anotnio. I can't fathom why people aren't stepping back and seeing the bigger picture here (bigger than aesthetics or retail, for example).
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