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Old 10-06-2007, 08:47 AM
 
Location: St. Louis, MO
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Well, you'd be expecting incorrectly. They aren't.

Newer cities tend to be more integrated. They have to be.
I've been doing some research, and once again disproven your ridiculous statements purely in defense of your two favorite cities. If you had an education, you'd know those two cities have been around a long time, and that neither, as someone has said, is exactly very well integrated, though they are less segregated than other cities. Try and do a little research before making statements.
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Old 10-06-2007, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Yep, and the most common form of modern segregation comes in two words: white flight. And it's spreading out further and further. Blacks are the undesirables of this country, and a lot of wealthy communities are thinking that if someone of color is able to get into their neighborhood, the value must have went down. And don't let it be an "ethnic" black person.

Even while it's not the main problem, it's not just a black and white thing. There are many areas where Latinos and Mediterranean persons are not wanted around.
Yet; people wink at dark skinned people of Italian heritage in so-called 'lily-white' areas.

As for Blacks; even there the so-called 'color line' tends to be bent to 'allow' Nigerians, Kenyans, Jamaicans, etc. into the 'White' areas-------the latter having major attitude against American Black people.
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Old 10-06-2007, 02:02 PM
 
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I've been doing some research, and once again disproven your ridiculous statements purely in defense of your two favorite cities. If you had an education, you'd know those two cities have been around a long time, and that neither, as someone has said, is exactly very well integrated, though they are less segregated than other cities. Try and do a little research before making statements.
Research? LOL. What the hell are you talking about? Are you the professor of City-Data now? I'm the one that refuted your original claim.

Yes, Indy and Columbo both have segregated neighborhoods as does any city but for the most part, both cities are not "very segregated" as you implied--and especially not compared to the list of cities you gave. Both Columbo and Indy are cities that have strong middle-class suburban neighborhoods--which tend to be integrated.

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Last edited by ontheroad; 10-06-2007 at 07:33 PM.. Reason: Refrain from personal attacks.
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Old 10-06-2007, 04:03 PM
 
Location: In God
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Yet; people wink at dark skinned people of Italian heritage in so-called 'lily-white' areas.

As for Blacks; even there the so-called 'color line' tends to be bent to 'allow' Nigerians, Kenyans, Jamaicans, etc. into the 'White' areas-------the latter having major attitude against American Black people.
Yeah, Nigerians and Kenyans maybe, but Jamaicans are usually grouped with American Blacks since their lifestyles are similar to that of our own. It's a crying shame what people are having to put up with. I blame the media, lol.
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Old 10-08-2007, 12:23 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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I don't know if Indy and Columbus are, but I'd expect them to be.
Columbus is more liberal than Indy, and recognized as a place for mixed relationships, and is a "liberal" minded city.

It does differ if your speaking of the original 50sq miles of Columbus, or the annexed "new post WWII" growth areas of Columbus (that add together to make Columbus 222sq miles and a little more. Columbus' newer middle class areas are very very very intergrated. Many middle class neigborhoods and suburbs of Columbus have a mix of races. Columbus' annexation policy, non-industrial decline, high white collar growth, and lack of inner-ring suburbs, high college graduation rates, contributed to the cities ability to escape "extreme white flight" and segregation.
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Old 10-08-2007, 12:28 AM
 
Location: St. Louis, MO
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Research? LOL. What the hell are you talking about? Are you the professor of City-Data now? I'm the one that refuted your original claim.

Yes, Indy and Columbo both have segregated neighborhoods as does any city but for the most part, both cities are not "very segregated" as you implied--and especially not compared to the list of cities you gave. Both Columbo and Indy are cities that have strong middle-class suburban neighborhoods--which tend to be integrated.

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You didn't refute anything...i made an assumption, I didn't go out and state this as fact...I assumed...big difference pal. Also, I'm sick of your personal attacks. All you've done is attack me the first time I encountered you. Be an adult like streetcreed instead of an angry little kid.
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Old 10-08-2007, 12:26 PM
 
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Detroit...
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Old 10-08-2007, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Concord, California.
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Arabs along with Iranians, etc. are White, whatever their religious beliefs.
Officially (per U.S. census bureau classification policy.) yes, that is true, though many don't see it that way socialy speaking. But in the greater Detroit region almost all of them live in Dearborn or in the suburbs anyway, -not in Detroit itself. -Emil.
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Old 10-08-2007, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Concord, California.
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Columbus is more liberal than Indy, and recognized as a place for mixed relationships, and is a "liberal" minded city.

It does differ if your speaking of the original 50sq miles of Columbus, or the annexed "new post WWII" growth areas of Columbus (that add together to make Columbus 222sq miles and a little more. Columbus' newer middle class areas are very very very intergrated. Many middle class neigborhoods and suburbs of Columbus have a mix of races. Columbus' annexation policy, non-industrial decline, high white collar growth, and lack of inner-ring suburbs, high college graduation rates, contributed to the cities ability to escape "extreme white flight" and segregation.
from what I have seen, there are still many very white suburban areas in Columbus. It's all relative, though.
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Old 10-08-2007, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Concord, California.
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One things that has been overlooked is certain so-called 'minorities' who would be counted as 'Anglo' (non Hispanic White) today had to deal with restrictive covenants, etc. even after WW II.

Jewish people come to mind-------in fact; Barry Goldwater from Arizona, who was Episcipalian (sp), was 'banned' from a country club because his father was 'Jewish'-----whereupon Goldwater demanded to play 9 holes of golf due to his other parent being Christian!

Yours Truly here; despite being Nordic White in appearance, would have had trouble due to my Eastern European heritage (Hungarian) as well as having 'obvious' Irish traits as well--------remember the No Irish need apply signs?

My point being that lines and boundaries shift and turn as time goes on.
Great point!
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