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Old 12-29-2007, 02:55 PM
 
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Funny you should say that. In America if you have black skin then you are black period. If you tell someone of West Indian decent that they are black American they will beg to differ with you.
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Old 12-29-2007, 03:02 PM
 
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Funny you should say that. In America if you have black skin then you are black period. If you tell someone of West Indian decent that they are black American they will beg to differ with you.
Well a lot of people associate the term "black American" with people who are descendants of American slaves.
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Old 12-29-2007, 03:17 PM
 
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Black is often used as a substitute for Negroid, which is not just a matter of pigmentation. Negroids are characterised also by other specialisations such as coarse, usually kinky hair, alveolar prognathism, thick everted lips and flat low-bridged lithe noses with broad nostrils.

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Funny you should say that. In America if you have black skin then you are black period. If you tell someone of West Indian decent that they are black American they will beg to differ with you.
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Old 12-29-2007, 03:19 PM
 
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Well a lot of people associate the term "black American" with people who are descendants of American slaves.
True however there are black spanish people living in America who upon site look black but are not black Americans. West Indians same. My point is that in America if you see someone who looks black you automatically assume that they are a black American which may not be true. Let's not forget that the slave trade didn't just drop off in America they also did in Brazil, Latin America and so on....

Side note: Many blacks also have European and/or Native American ancestors.

To stay on the topic of this thread....I again say New York
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Old 12-29-2007, 03:24 PM
 
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Funny you should say that. In America if you have black skin then you are black period. If you tell someone of West Indian decent that they are black American they will beg to differ with you.
I'm well aware of the fact that Caribbeans and so-called "Afro-Latinos" don't consider themselves to be "African-American".

They're NOT African-American. And they're certainly not better than anyone.

But their 'special status' doesn't mean anything to society if they break the law.

For those West Indian, Dominican, and Puerto Rican drug dealers in Brooklyn, Washington Heights, Corona Queens, The Bronx, and Miami, trying to distance themselves from "African-Americans" doesn't change the fact that they're MORE than capable of criminality, and couldn't make it in their own countries.
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Old 12-29-2007, 03:29 PM
 
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True however there are black spanish people living in America who upon site look black but are not black Americans. West Indians same. My point is that in America if you see someone who looks black you automatically assume that they are a black American which may not be true. Let's not forget that the slave trade didn't just drop off in America they also did in Brazil, Latin America and so on....

Side note: Many blacks also have European and/or Native American ancestors.

To stay on the topic of this thread....I again say New York
Oh, I know all this, but as for me, if they look black, they are black.

Except for those persons from places like New Zealand, Oceania, Australia, etc.
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Old 12-29-2007, 04:02 PM
 
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New York and Los Angeles are very segregated. I mean anyplace that has to make distinctions among "Little Italy", "Chinatown", "Koreatown", "Spanish Harlem", Williamsburg "Jewish" district, the "barrios", etc is clearly segregated. Both NY and LA have lots of ethnic enclaves which just reek of segregation.
Sounds a lot like Pittsburgh. When I posted same there, I got a lot of flak, and stories of great racial/ethnic harmony. I am a generation older than a lot of those posters. I can remember when many parents didn't "allow" their kids to date Poles, Italians, etc. Black/white dating was practically non-existent. I'd say non-existent, b/c I never knew/saw any, but someone will come on and say "my grandparents were a racially mixed couple", etc, so I will say it was rare.

Denver doesn't have a lot of racial/ethnic disharmony now, and even the burbs have some diversity. In Pittsburgh, many of the burbs are overwhelmingly white, in the high 90s percentage wise.

Denver has a sad history of embracing the Ku Klux Klan in the 1920s. It was mainly an anti-Catholic, anti-Hispanic thing, since even then the main minority group was Hispanic. There was a Little Italy, and a man I know who grew up there said they were not considered "white".

I've never lived in any other cities, and it is my policy to not comment on things I have no first-hand knowledge about. I do know that many of my acquaintances from Chicago held racial prejudices.
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Old 12-29-2007, 07:58 PM
 
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Sounds a lot like Pittsburgh. When I posted same there, I got a lot of flak, and stories of great racial/ethnic harmony. I am a generation older than a lot of those posters. I can remember when many parents didn't "allow" their kids to date Poles, Italians, etc. Black/white dating was practically non-existent. I'd say non-existent, b/c I never knew/saw any, but someone will come on and say "my grandparents were a racially mixed couple", etc, so I will say it was rare.

Denver doesn't have a lot of racial/ethnic disharmony now, and even the burbs have some diversity. In Pittsburgh, many of the burbs are overwhelmingly white, in the high 90s percentage wise.

Denver has a sad history of embracing the Ku Klux Klan in the 1920s. It was mainly an anti-Catholic, anti-Hispanic thing, since even then the main minority group was Hispanic. There was a Little Italy, and a man I know who grew up there said they were not considered "white".

I've never lived in any other cities, and it is my policy to not comment on things I have no first-hand knowledge about. I do know that many of my acquaintances from Chicago held racial prejudices.
Did you ever figure out that Denver is a huge transplant town since the 90s and 2000s and doesn't have the old ways the N.E. towns are?
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Old 12-29-2007, 08:05 PM
 
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Did you ever figure out that Denver is a huge transplant town since the 90s and 2000s and doesn't have the old ways the N.E. towns are?
Denver has been a huge transplant town since at least World War II. I don't see what that has to do with racial harmony.

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Old 12-31-2007, 10:00 AM
 
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I see where you're coming from. I'm not sure what your race is or where you lived in the Pacific Northwest...but let's just say you are black and lived in Portland, which is a pretty white city. If all of a sudden, the population in Portland became 50% black, I think you would be witnessing a lot more discrimination toward you in that town. That's the point I'm trying to make. A few blacks in a largely white area are generally not "threatening" to white people. But when an area tips largely toward one ethnic group, many white people get uncomfortable and you see a lot more racial incidents. And it's not uncommon for Southern towns to have black populations of 30%, 40%, 50% or more.
My race: I am African-American and I lived in Everett,WA, near Seattle. I loved and had trouble adjusting to the culture when I moved to the South. As for few blacks in a "white" area, for me I had less problems when I was in areas that were more racially mixed.
As for the most segregated city in the USA, most US cities have some form of social segregation in one way or another. I think few people would suspect that Atlanta has segregation. It does. I should know. I have lived here for over a decade. There is a "black" and "white" part of town. It is just a matter of it not being publicized. Atlanta does have a motto it's trying to "promote" "The City Too Busy To Hate", which is more an unspoken myth. The difference is that alot of black professionals move to Atlanta and many settle in the suburbs.
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