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View Poll Results: Sanfransico or Chicago
Sanfransico 75 45.45%
Chicago 90 54.55%
Voters: 165. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-26-2009, 02:28 AM
 
Location: USA
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Originally Posted by thefinalcut View Post
That's pitiful when a city has to cling to rankings to confirm its greatness.
You would never hear a Londoner or New Yorker boast city's global status based on some ranking. Yes, Chicago has status because it is big but other than this and tall building there is not much to show for...

Not to feed the troll...but if population was the factor of the city's prominence than LA would be ranked higher than Chicago.

But this thread is about Chicago vs. San Fran.

Carry on

 
Old 06-26-2009, 02:36 AM
 
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Not to feed the troll...but if population was the factor of the city's prominence than LA would be ranked higher than Chicago.

But this thread is about Chicago vs. San Fran.

Carry on
And it is. Outside of the US, I am in Europe now by the way, nobody considers Chicago a center of anything or a cultural hub while LA is easily recognizable as the center of international movie making / entertainment business. In the same time companies like Apple or Google made San Fran/Bay world-wide famous.

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Old 06-26-2009, 06:31 AM
 
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And it is. Outside of the US, I am in Europe now by the way, nobody considers Chicago a center of anything or a cultural hub while LA is easily recognizable as the center of international movie making / entertainment business. In the same time companies like Apple or Google made San Fran/Bay world-wide famous.
Actually for most of the world including Europe what is recognized as the center for international movie making is India, which has a far larger industry. But you bring up a point, that LA is known only because of Hollywood. Not exactly something good to be known for. More people look down on Hollywood than look up to it. Who cares about "fame" only teenage girls and image obsessed people. Too bad there are a lot of these people, and good that LA gets many of them. Outside of Hollywood LA is not known for anything besides having "lots of mexicans" and "no great universities."

You seem to hold image to a higher regard than reality. It's like the central theme to every one of your arguments, image. Even your border arguments are all about man-made image constructs and not reality. Draw the same borders in the Great Lakes region or the Northeast and the economy is far larger than California's for instance.

I am originally from London BTW and Miami is far more known than LA. Just thought I'd mention this as you keep bringing up Europe as if Europeans know the United States better than people from the United States do. Miami even has its own terminal stop on the Picadilly line to Heathrow along with New York, the only two American cities to have them. Which just goes to show you surveying foreigners is no way to assess a city. You don't go survey bar owners when you want to know the best treatment for a pulmonary embolisms, you survey doctors who know what they are talking about. Otherwise you are just hearing flapping in the wind and nothing useful. Likewise you don't survey a foreigner when discussing American cities or an American when discussing foreign cities, UNLESS they are well travelled and can speak from experience. By their very nature foreigners know less about a place than natives so using them in an objective argument is one of the weakest links you can make. Might as well go the Middle East and ask them what they think of Kansas, I'm sure they'll give you a well informed opinion from direct experience and you'll find out exactly what Kansas is in reality. In other words you are probably talking to people who have an opinion of a movie they've never seen, which is weak, and I get the feeling you are the same way with Chicago by the looks of your posts, which is hard to take them seriously. If you can speak from direct experience your arguments on here actually start to hold some merit. Surveying "people" you just happen to be hanging around with at the time, who may or may not know anything at all, and living your life through the idiot box, watching Entertainment Tonight and the newest Disney movie, and then imagining what other places might be like, is no way to learn about the world. I'm sure you know more about Europe right now then before you visited for instance.

But I digress. You seem to be on a anti-Chicago vendetta for some reason so someone obviously struck a nerve with you at some point from there.

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Old 06-26-2009, 06:58 AM
 
Location: South Carolina
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That's pitiful when a city has to cling to rankings to confirm its greatness.
You would never hear a Londoner or New Yorker boast city's global status based on some ranking. Yes, Chicago has status because it is big but other than this and tall building there is not much to show for...
Not much to show for? Chicago has THE best waterfront in the entire United States, bar none and competes with the best waterfronts in the world. To me, that is indeed something to show for.
 
Old 06-26-2009, 07:11 AM
 
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No, Chicago does not get the attention because there is nothing interesting happening there.
what a ridiculous comment. You're new here. Moderator cut: Personal Attack. Granted this is a versus thread, but this is exactly the type of sh1t that turns these already tenuous threads to garbage.

BTW-- where are you from that you feel so rough and ready to downplay Chicago? It better be London, Paris, New York or Tokyo. Moderator cut: off topic

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Old 06-26-2009, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Miami
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Lets please stay on topic if not this thread will be closed down. The topic is San Francisco vs. Chicago, nothing else...
 
Old 06-26-2009, 12:11 PM
 
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Yea,

chic isnt even regarded in California as a "cool" or "happening" city...honestly its on the same level as St. Louis, Detroit etc to us.California is like a micro-cosm of the world ..what makes you think the actual world cares about them?

San Francisco is more well known worldwide ..ESPECIALLY in Asia (4 billion people aint too shabby)

Don't let a couple of polish or lithuanians fool you into thinking chic is actually known in the world as much as SF
 
Old 06-26-2009, 01:15 PM
 
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Give it a rest buddy, your world renowned institution are world renonowned in your little world only.
LOL.

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Outside of it, nobody cares about Field Museum or Shea Aquarium as there are many much more interesting museums or aquariums in other cities around the world.
The Field Museum is well known around the world. Its the home to the most complete and best preserved t-rex ever found. Thats a huge achievement for a city you would call inferior to any other.

Its the SHEDD Aquarium. That only proves you've never lived in Chicago or stepped foot anywhere near it. The Shedd is an amazing Aquarium and is always winning awards.

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I am in Europe at this very moment and nobody here, besides symphonia buffs can name any cultural institution or an event that could be associated with Chicago. Piece of advice, before proclaiming anything as world renowned you should probably check with the world first
Wow, I don't know which one is more pathetic. The fact that you claim yet again to be in Europe or assuming you are in Europe, you're on a computer bashing Chicago? Why aren't you out being "cultured". LOL
 
Old 06-26-2009, 01:24 PM
 
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Yea,

chic isnt even regarded in California as a "cool" or "happening" city...honestly its on the same level as St. Louis, Detroit etc to us.California is like a micro-cosm of the world ..what makes you think the actual world cares about them?
You should care a lot about Detroit being from Southern California. The car is the only reason that place exist. When you live in an area supported ENTIRELY on highways and roads, its kind of hard to bash the city that gave you the CAR.

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Originally Posted by LosAngelesNightmare View Post
San Francisco is more well known worldwide ..ESPECIALLY in Asia (4 billion people aint too shabby)

Don't let a couple of polish or lithuanians fool you into thinking chic is actually known in the world as much as SF
Stop bashing. At the end of the day, Chicago is still better and I'm sure the poll that shows Chicago BEATING San Fransisco proves that.
 
Old 06-26-2009, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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. . . You're new here . . .
No he's not. He's just pretending to be. But we've seen this schtik before.
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