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View Poll Results: Which of this city has the third best skyline?
Seattle 163 23.22%
Phildephia 89 12.68%
Los angeles 38 5.41%
Pittsburgh 52 7.41%
Houston 103 14.67%
San francisco 137 19.52%
Atlanta 60 8.55%
Boston 14 1.99%
Denver 23 3.28%
Dallas 23 3.28%
Voters: 702. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-03-2008, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Villanova Pa.
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Originally Posted by Scraper Enthusiast View Post
Most cities have freeways running right through or beside downtown. Let's see, Seattle, Los Angeles, Dallas, Houston, Philadelphia,
The key here is "Through" or "Beside"

The 16 lane highway/moat running "Through" the middle of Atlanta is glaring. It screams get me in my car and out of this downtown. On the otherhand the highways that run "Beside" Seattle and Philadlephia are necessary evils and are frowned upon.

And again the Atlanta area seems like a great area and imo you should concentrate your efforts on promoting Atlanta's strengths. Getting into a downtown cityscape/skyline battle with SF,Sea,Philly is unquestionably a bit ambitious for Atlanta at this point and time. 50/100 years down the line you'll have a hell of an argument but not today.



Atlanta
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/191/4...ac3bc1170d.jpg

Philadelphia

Notice the modest 3 lane highway in each direction in Philadlephia and embedded in that picture is a series of public transporation and rail systems that run hundreds of thousands of people and products through Philadlelphia on a weekly basis.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1192/...f5430b70_o.jpg

Seattle

Excellent density which provides a sense of community,cohesiveness and pride in the downtown area.Atlanta's downtown needs to lose the sprawl and concentrate on density

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/228/4...009942335a.jpg

Last edited by JMT; 08-03-2012 at 07:59 PM..

 
Old 05-03-2008, 09:34 AM
 
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Dude lol you're still making little to no sense I'm just gonna move on.....
Hahah Maybe you don't speak English...Whatever it is it more like Charlie Brown's teacher to me! LOL! I'm just gonna move on.....
 
Old 05-03-2008, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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In fact, the only cities that I can recall that do not have a freeway running right through downtown, or right on the outside of downtown are:

New York City
West Side Highway, FDR Drive?

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Washington D.C.
Southwest Freeway?

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San Francisco
Bayshore Freeway?

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Baltimore
JFX?

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Pittsburgh (across river)
Parkway East? Crosstown Boulevard?


Nonetheless, none of these cut a huge swath right through the middle of downtown (though Crosstown Boulevard in Pittsburgh may be a substantial constraint to any future growth of Pittsburgh's downtown)... I think that was main issue raised about the 378-lane highway into downtown Atlanta.
 
Old 05-03-2008, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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I believe 395 runs right by Downtown DC. Is Southwest Freeway the name of 395. If so, didn't know but yeah.
 
Old 05-03-2008, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Originally Fayetteville, Arkansas/ now Seattle, Washington!
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Hahah Maybe you don't speak English...Whatever it is it more like Charlie Brown's teacher to me! LOL! I'm just gonna move on.....
Obviously i speak English or i wouldn't have written any of this You just have a strange way of wording things lol thats all.
 
Old 05-03-2008, 04:53 PM
 
Location: Originally Fayetteville, Arkansas/ now Seattle, Washington!
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The key here is "Through" or "Beside"

The 16 lane highway/moat running "Through" the middle of Atlanta is glaring. It screams get me in my car and out of this downtown. On the otherhand the highways that run "Beside" Seattle and Philadlephia are necessary evils and are frowned upon.

And again the Atlanta area seems like a great area and imo you should concentrate your efforts on promoting Atlanta's strengths. Getting into a downtown cityscape/skyline battle with SF,Sea,Philly is unquestionably a bit ambitious for Atlanta at this point and time. 50/100 years down the line you'll have a hell of an argument but not today.



Atlanta
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/191/4...ac3bc1170d.jpg

Philadelphia

Notice the modest 3 lane highway in each direction in Philadlephia and embedded in that picture is a series of public transporation and rail systems that run hundreds of thousands of people and products through Philadlelphia on a weekly basis.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1192/...f5430b70_o.jpg

Seattle

Excellent density which provides a sense of community,cohesiveness and pride in the downtown area.Atlanta's downtown needs to lose the sprawl and concentrate on density

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/228/4...009942335a.jpg
An excellent job explaining the differences and giving picture examples to show them. While Atlanta has a HUGE highway going right through the middle, Seattle and Philly both have about 3 lane(both way) highways running on the SIDE of downtown.....as a matter of fact Seattle's is elevated, so it has NO effect on ground level traffic or anything of the sort, and must be accessed by ramps going up to it. I'm not sure about Philly's so i can't comment, but it looks as if its a similar story, and certainly out of the way. While sprawl can make sometimes for a more comfortable place to live for some, as far as skylines go, the density(which i agree gives a stronger sense of community) makes the skyline feel and look more attractive. LA is one exception for me though, because of its ground level density in the area, and unique layout of buildings/surroundings.

Last edited by JMT; 08-03-2012 at 07:54 PM..
 
Old 05-03-2008, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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sweet pics.

Here are some more from here..

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2372/...71a07373_o.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2207/...3288d44d_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2374/...4876ddc5_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2408/...f39612c4_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3062/...cabc7e7e_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2306/...896c9051_o.jpg

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Old 05-03-2008, 08:11 PM
 
Location: USA
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Chicago and NYC get all of the credit but there are some really great skylines out there besides those.

One of the cool things about some of the other U.S. skylines (San Fran and Seattle come to mind) is how they blend in with their natural dynamic backdrops.

Compared to other countries the U.S. has some of the bet skylines in the world. Due credit should be given to some of the other cities for their skylines.

So I guess I'm trying to give due credit here.
 
Old 05-03-2008, 10:43 PM
 
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God, some of you are such big whiny babies. People are going to have different opinions, get over it. Some folks like Atlanta's skyline, some folks like Houston. Jesus Christ superstar, lets all have some margaritas and relax. Woo-sah, Woo-sah...
 
Old 05-04-2008, 06:38 AM
 
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Originally Posted by rainrock View Post
The key here is "Through" or "Beside"

The 16 lane highway/moat running "Through" the middle of Atlanta is glaring. It screams get me in my car and out of this downtown. On the otherhand the highways that run "Beside" Seattle and Philadlephia are necessary evils and are frowned upon.

And again the Atlanta area seems like a great area and imo you should concentrate your efforts on promoting Atlanta's strengths. Getting into a downtown cityscape/skyline battle with SF,Sea,Philly is unquestionably a bit ambitious for Atlanta at this point and time. 50/100 years down the line you'll have a hell of an argument but not today.



Atlanta
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/191/4...ac3bc1170d.jpg


This freeway is the "Downtown Connector", and it is a combination of the merging of I-75 & I-85. You have to have more lanes to feed TWO interstates into one for a short period of time.

Secondly, there is only one location where the downtown connector cuts through the heart of town, and this has to do with the fact that in this one location, the highrises sat clearly all to the south of where it cut. Its shift to the left heading south was its way of going AROUND downtown, instead of through it. This shift is known locally as the "GRADY CURVE" (for the hospital that sits just on the inside of this "curve". When the interstate was constructed, there weren't any major highrise on the other side of the interstate.

Today, the "Downtown Connector" sits on the outside of both downtown and midtown, with the exception of the one area where it cuts through between downtown and midtown. This doesn't hurt the city, nor "slice it in half". Downtown core is in-tact, and both downtown and midtown continue to see increased development in close proximity to where it cuts through.

This picture above is taken from an angle looking westward toward the campus of Georgia Tech. Midtown sits to the east of the freeway, and that is where the skyline is, not on the west side of the downtown connector. Nice try using that for discrediting the skyline, if that was what your intent was. If the intent was to show a major freeway running through the center of skyscrapers, note that this picture shows the freeway running outside of the main area. Boston's "Big Dig" goes straight through, granted it is underground.

Atlanta has lots of public transportation in this area, including a heavy rail line on the order of Washington's metro. The stations are underground in this area.

Atlanta's skyline is already superior to San Francisco and Seattle. I've already posted shots that reveal that. If you have eyes to see and an ability to logically admit reality, you'll see that.

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