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View Poll Results: Will Houston surpass Chicago as the 3rd largest city by 2020?
Yes 473 41.35%
No 671 58.65%
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Old 07-26-2015, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Houston might have just left Chicago in the dust this year (2015).
Next year Houston will have run over Chicago it's only obvious.
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No way.
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Old 07-26-2015, 04:30 PM
 
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Houston might have just left Chicago in the dust this year (2015).
Next year Houston will have run over Chicago it's only obvious.
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Hard to say right now. I think with downtown in oil, the GDP may show a slowdown. But it wouldn't have passed Chicago this year even if it continued its growth.
The numbers are for 2013, published in September of 2914.

The 2014 numbers are not out, and the slow down in 2014 should not be evident in the 2014 numbers.

The 2014 numbers published in a couple of months should show Chicago still ahead but only by about 40 to 50B.

I predict Houston to be around 560 and Chicago at about 600B at the MSA level.

I expect Chicago to still be ahead in the next two GDP releases, but the mantra constantly repeated on here about Houston never becoming as important as Chicago or why is Houston listed with cities like Boston is ridiculous.

Like the city or hate it, Houston has been in the race for being a top 5 city for a few years now. Yes it is a 7 city race for these 5 spots, but Houston is in the discussion.

NY and LA are fixed at 1 and 2 for the near future, but the next 5: chicago, Houston, the bay, Boston and DC position for the near future are not clear. AnY one could easily be ranked anywhere from 3 to 7.

For now DFW in my opinion has a lock on number 8, over Philadelphia which I think has a lock on number 9.
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Old 08-02-2015, 11:32 PM
 
Location: Greater Houston
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Hard to say right now. I think with downtown in oil, the GDP may show a slowdown.
Sorry to break it to you, but Downtown Houston is no longer popular with oil companies right now. Oil is mostly in The Galleria and Memorial City/Energy Corridor now. Air Liquide moved to Memorial City from The Galleria a month or two ago.

Exxon is in the process of moving to The Woodlands. With the exception of Chevron, nobody is really interested in DT Houston right now. Shell laid off employees on Thursday. Doug Miller on Channel 11 centered his story on that with the view of One Shell Plaza from Buffalo Bayou park in front of the Channel 11 studios.
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Old 08-03-2015, 12:12 AM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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Out of the 20 something Fortune 500 companies in Houston more than 60% of the companies and probably even higher percentage have their headquarters in downtown. Downtown still has the companies main hq's, even the rest of Houston combined is less half of the Fortune 500 hq's.
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Old 08-03-2015, 12:51 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Sorry to break it to you, but Downtown Houston is no longer popular with oil companies right now. Oil is mostly in The Galleria and Memorial City/Energy Corridor now. Air Liquide moved to Memorial City from The Galleria a month or two ago.

Exxon is in the process of moving to The Woodlands. With the exception of Chevron, nobody is really interested in DT Houston right now. Shell laid off employees on Thursday. Doug Miller on Channel 11 centered his story on that with the view of One Shell Plaza from Buffalo Bayou park in front of the Channel 11 studios.
Welp. Build more residential units then.
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Old 08-03-2015, 02:00 AM
 
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Welp. Build more residential units then.
The residential towers will slow down with the downturn in job growth in Downtown since that gives less incentive for people to actually live downtown unless they want long commutes to their suburban workplaces. Kind of why the Woodlands is such a desirable place to live. Growing job market means bringing more families to the area.
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Old 08-03-2015, 02:15 AM
 
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The residential towers will slow down with the downturn in job growth in Downtown since that gives less incentive for people to actually live downtown unless they want long commutes to their suburban workplaces. Kind of why the Woodlands is such a desirable place to live. Growing job market means bringing more families to the area.
Boy, stay in Atlanta. Thank you!
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Old 08-03-2015, 05:19 AM
 
Location: The Bayou City
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The residential towers will slow down with the downturn in job growth in Downtown since that gives less incentive for people to actually live downtown unless they want long commutes to their suburban workplaces. Kind of why the Woodlands is such a desirable place to live. Growing job market means bringing more families to the area.
you do realize downtown Houston has a workforce of 150,000 people.. right? the amenities downtown have been growing more than ever over these past few years.. its starting to become quite an attractive place to live for the urban dweller.
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Old 08-03-2015, 05:27 AM
 
Location: The Bayou City
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it doesn't look like this article ever got posted in here.. somehow it seems more relevant to the thread than the recent discussions..?

Chicago's Population Grew by Only 82 Residents in One Year: Census | NBC Chicago

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The city grew by just 82 residents during the one-year period, an increase of just .003 percent, officials said.

Though Chicago still maintains its third-place status with 2,722,389 people as of July 1, 2014, Houston closely follows with 2,239,588 residents. The Texas city also grew by 1.6 percent from 2013-2014 with an increase of 35,752 residents.

i would assume last year was some sort of anomaly, but does anyone feel like doing the math to see when Houston would pass Chicago at that rate?
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Old 08-03-2015, 05:54 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Boy, stay in Atlanta. Thank you!
To all the Texas posters grumbling about how Atlanta keeps infiltrating Texas/Houston threads, the comments above are an example. Ant's post was within the subject matter of this thread. If the above poster didn't agree with the comments, then refute them.

Southerboy205 is infatuated with Atlanta and gives mention at every chance possible. If Texas forum members want Atlanta out of the conversation, then start flagging posts like the one above.

Topic: Houston may pass up Chicago statistically by population and GDP sooner than later. Leaders may extend the city limits to encompass all of SE Texas. With Houston as a city there's something missing though. First off, the city's financials are in shambles. This on the eve of hosting the very expensive (for any city) NFL Super Bowl in 2017. Has Houston's lack of zoning & planning finally caught up with it?
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