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View Poll Results: Will Houston surpass Chicago as the 3rd largest city by 2020?
Yes 473 41.35%
No 671 58.65%
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Old 03-28-2008, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Originally Fayetteville, Arkansas/ now Seattle, Washington!
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Trying to make your pitiful city of Boston look good? Without San Francisco, what would the Bay Area be? Some people, like my mom, don't know what the Bay Area is but when San Francisco is mentioned then they think of water, hills, and cold. I don't know why San Jose is disjointed in the MSAs because the development has to stretch so long along the bay because of the mountains. San Jose would be considered too far away without those pesky mountains in the middle of it. If the Bay Area was counted correctly, DFW is really in fifth place followed by Houston and Philadelphia.
.....or maybe not? The DFW are is HUGE in area and takes up many miles and cities quite far apart. Same with houston, so i don't see what the bay area's problem is???
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Old 03-28-2008, 12:57 PM
 
Location: New England & The Maritimes
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Trying to make your pitiful city of Boston look good? Without San Francisco, what would the Bay Area be? Some people, like my mom, don't know what the Bay Area is but when San Francisco is mentioned then they think of water, hills, and cold. I don't know why San Jose is disjointed in the MSAs because the development has to stretch so long along the bay because of the mountains. San Jose would be considered too far away without those pesky mountains in the middle of it. If the Bay Area was counted correctly, DFW is really in fifth place followed by Houston and Philadelphia.
I don't care what your mom thinks.

Seriously though, I don't know how to respond to this. First of all, Houston IS after DFW and Philadelphia for MSAs. It's what I said, and what you said, so I'm a little confused.

The Bay area metro is no more sprawling than Houston.

I'm sorry that Boston has other cities around it to include in the area because it existed more than 50 years ago and isn't surrounded by a swamp.

Nobody outside of Texas cares about Houston and everyone on this website needs to realize that.
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Old 03-28-2008, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Phoenix metro
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Trying to make your pitiful city of Boston look good?


If most cities were 1/2 of what Boston is, Id be a happy man.
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Old 03-28-2008, 01:42 PM
 
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I don't care what your mom thinks.

Seriously though, I don't know how to respond to this. First of all, Houston IS after DFW and Philadelphia for MSAs. It's what I said, and what you said, so I'm a little confused.

The Bay area metro is no more sprawling than Houston.

I'm sorry that Boston has other cities around it to include in the area because it existed more than 50 years ago and isn't surrounded by a swamp.

Nobody outside of Texas cares about Houston and everyone on this website needs to realize that.
I'm in Massachussets and I care. This place has some good things (like Boston and sometimes Cambridge when you're looking for good food) but a lot of it sucks. So it looks like someone does care. Anyways, back to the real topic. I think Chicago will hold on for a little while longer than 2020, but at the current rate Houston will pass Chicago eventually, though for metro areas (since Chicago is just about the only city that means anything in Illinois) it will take quite a while for Houston to catch up.
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Old 03-28-2008, 02:29 PM
 
Location: The land of sugar... previously Houston and Austin
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I'm sorry that Boston has other cities around it to include in the area because it existed more than 50 years ago and isn't surrounded by a swamp.

Nobody outside of Texas cares about Houston and everyone on this website needs to realize that.
The only "swamp" is southeast of town. Not north, not west, not south. And I'd be hesitant to even call it a real swamp... this is TX, not FL or LA.

No one in Houston cares if you think no one outside of Texas "cares" about Houston. Especially someone from MA (I know because half my family lives there and I'm familiar with the holier-than-thou attitude toward TX and the south in general). Houston has the world's largest grouping of hospitals and medical research (Texas Medical Center), is ground zero for the country's manned space flight program, is #2 in the country for number of Fortune 500 companies (after NYC) and for its theater district (after NYC's Broadway), is 1st in the country in foreign tonnage (Port of Houston), and is the undisputed capital of the energy industry in general (not just oil). And it should go without saying it's the country's 4th largest city after Chicago, no matter the circumstances of how it got there. That does mean something. So no matter what you or the rest of the country thinks, Houston is a HUGE player in many areas and continues to increase in population and economic factors.
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Old 03-28-2008, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Center City Philadelphia
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Houston may pass Chicago in population in ten years, but it will take a hundred years to have the density of a true world-class city like Chicago (if ever).
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Old 03-28-2008, 02:46 PM
 
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Houston may pass Chicago in population in ten years, but it will take a hundred years to have the density of a true world-class city like Chicago (if ever).
At 600 sq miles, I would definitely have to say a big YES to that. Though I do admit I think density is overrated, since most people in the US drive anyways.
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Old 03-28-2008, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Cleveland Suburbs
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No, I think Chicago is on the move, it offers so much more than Houston. Give it time, people will realize that the SunBelt isn't always the best place to head to.
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Old 03-28-2008, 02:58 PM
 
Location: West Hollywood
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No, I think Chicago is on the move, it offers so much more than Houston. Give it time, people will realize that the SunBelt isn't always the best place to head to.
They already are, with the water shortages and all. Hands off the great lakes all!
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Old 03-28-2008, 02:59 PM
 
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600 square miles is a crazy land area. Houston will never reach Chicago's level of urbanity or density!

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