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View Poll Results: Will Houston surpass Chicago as the 3rd largest city by 2020?
Yes 492 41.55%
No 692 58.45%
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Old 10-10-2008, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Phoenix metro
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Houston will surpass Chicago as the 3rd largest city in less than eight years. Chicago is a failed city according to the article.
The Decline of Chicago: The City that Doesn't Work | Newgeography.com
That article is rubbish. Apparently that IDIOT left out the fact that Chicago's economy is the most diverse in the nation, the fact that Chicago leads the nation (by far, too) in corporate relocation and expansions, and that Chicagoland is the ONLY metro outside the sunbelt that is growing quickly, with several counties/cities in the top 10 fastest growing in the nation. On top of it all, that IDIOT who wrote that article is also a complete racist prick. Who cares that Chicago schools arent majority white? Anyways, he points out obvious things that everyone already knows about (ie bad schools and corrupt politicians). That author is a braindead, backwards, idiotic moron, simple as that.
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Old 10-10-2008, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville,Florida
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I have to agree with that article and not just Chicago ,there is a lot of urban decay and middle-class flight out of most American big cites along with corruption and will continue to get worse.
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Old 10-10-2008, 03:39 PM
 
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That article is rubbish. Apparently that IDIOT left out the fact that Chicago's economy is the most diverse in the nation, the fact that Chicago leads the nation (by far, too) in corporate relocation and expansions, and that Chicagoland is the ONLY metro outside the sunbelt that is growing quickly, with several counties/cities in the top 10 fastest growing in the nation. On top of it all, that IDIOT who wrote that article is also a complete racist prick. Who cares that Chicago schools arent majority white? Anyways, he points out obvious things that everyone already knows about (ie bad schools and corrupt politicians). That author is a braindead, backwards, idiotic moron, simple as that.
New Geography is run by a bunch of virulent libertarian/right wing hacks, most notably the braindead, backwards, idiotic moron by the name of Joel Kotkin. He despises dense, urban cities and is an unabashed cheerleader for suburban/car dependant growth. He routinely gushes over sunbelt cities while making wild unsubstantiated claims towards cities like NYC and Chicago, vastly overstating their struggles and downplaying their accomplishments.
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Old 10-10-2008, 04:42 PM
 
Location: Phoenix metro
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New Geography is run by a bunch of virulent libertarian/right wing hacks, most notably the braindead, backwards, idiotic moron by the name of Joel Kotkin. He despises dense, urban cities and is an unabashed cheerleader for suburban/car dependant growth. He routinely gushes over sunbelt cities while making wild unsubstantiated claims towards cities like NYC and Chicago, vastly overstating their struggles and downplaying their accomplishments.
I figured so. Let the blind lead the blind I suppose.

Would anyone be so kind as to show Joel Cocktin as his followers the way to nearest cliff? Thanks.
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Old 10-10-2008, 04:53 PM
 
Location: Marion, IA
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New Geography is run by a bunch of virulent libertarian/right wing hacks, most notably the braindead, backwards, idiotic moron by the name of Joel Kotkin. He despises dense, urban cities and is an unabashed cheerleader for suburban/car dependant growth. He routinely gushes over sunbelt cities while making wild unsubstantiated claims towards cities like NYC and Chicago, vastly overstating their struggles and downplaying their accomplishments.
in other words, any town north of I-80 sucks.
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Old 10-10-2008, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth/Dallas
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This may sound dumb, but why would anybody wish to be more crowded? But I'm biased... I don't wish to be cramped with millions of other people; I like the country. Even though I live in the fourth largest metropolitan area in the country (DFW).
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Old 10-10-2008, 06:29 PM
 
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New Geography is run by a bunch of virulent libertarian/right wing hacks, most notably the braindead, backwards, idiotic moron by the name of Joel Kotkin. He despises dense, urban cities and is an unabashed cheerleader for suburban/car dependant growth. He routinely gushes over sunbelt cities while making wild unsubstantiated claims towards cities like NYC and Chicago, vastly overstating their struggles and downplaying their accomplishments.
Oh jesus, Kotkin and his ilk.

He is the only rabid animal I've ever seen that hasn't been shot on sight.
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Old 10-11-2008, 07:27 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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New Geography is run by a bunch of virulent libertarian/right wing hacks, most notably the braindead, backwards, idiotic moron by the name of Joel Kotkin. He despises dense, urban cities and is an unabashed cheerleader for suburban/car dependant growth. He routinely gushes over sunbelt cities while making wild unsubstantiated claims towards cities like NYC and Chicago, vastly overstating their struggles and downplaying their accomplishments.
Yep. Good ole Kotkin. He likes Houston because of the reasons you stated. But he also sees the changes in Houston towards the type of environment that is in NYC and Chicago is starting to speak out against it and Houston keeps pressing on to become more dense and more urban. Go Houston. Tell Kotkin to go like another suburban city.
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Old 10-11-2008, 09:26 AM
 
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Hahahah, did anyone read that whole article?? That was obviously written by some hack who has a personal issue with Chicago. It would be like watching only Fox News to decide if you want to vote for Obama or McCain. Fox is the most biased news source out there.

The population declined? Well yes, duh. They act like it's ALL because people are fleeing the horrors of the city. Did they maybe think that in the 50's the city was crammed with families living in very high density housing? Do they realize that over the past 50 years Americans have demanded a lot more living space, have smaller famlies, and that all over the country those families have moved to the burbs for more living space. Your housing sizes compared to the footprint of the city are much smaller than they use to be. Of course many people have fled the city, but that's only a portion of the population decline. New York has been an obvious exception to this, but most other cities with growing populations have those large areas of single family housing, and are constructing ever more houses for new residents. Most built-out cities are fairly stable, slowly growing, or slowly shrinking. Detroit would be an example of a city that has seen a true exodus of its population.

There are vast areas of Chicago that are in MUCH better shape than they were a few decades ago, and MANY of those areas have fewer people than they did decades ago.

There's more to a city than population. The families left, the school system went downhill. People mostly go to private schools, and the public school system is shrinking.

Also, people point to the sales tax, but never seem to mention that the state has one of the lowest income taxes of all states that charge them, and the property taxes are quite low. Chicago evens out to middle of the pack as far as total taxes.
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Old 10-12-2008, 07:14 PM
 
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Default Chicago Will be 3rd

I disagree, Chicago is expected to have 6 Million people in the city alone by 2050. It is true that their is not anymore space left, but they are planning towering skyscrapers to fit everyone. The Metro area is also growing extremely fast. When I started high school their were only 2500 students at school, now, only 3 years later there are over 3,000. I believe the Metro area is going to Rival that of New York's as it is now, around 20,000,000 people.
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