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I don't understand what point you are trying to make. What does Chicago have to do with California and Florida produce?
His point is that the vast majority of east-west rail lines go through the Chicago area. Its an underappreciated role that Chicago plays in the American economy.
His point is that the vast majority of east-west rail lines go through the Chicago area. Its an underappreciated role that Chicago plays in the American economy.
Right, but he was implying that EVERYTHING from California and Florida comes through Chicago.
It's not that most people "don't care" about Chicago. That would be like saying most people don't care about Houston. Just because certain people don't care about our cities, that doesn't mean that "most" people don't care about them. The fact of the matter is, they do care, but they just might not know it.
Every time somebody enjoys produce shipped from California or Florida, they are appreciating something brought via Chicago. Every time somebody gases up their car, they are appreciating something dug up in Houston and traded in Chicago. Every time someone admires a skyscraper, they have Chicago to thank for its innovation in creating the steel-framed sky scraper.
So Houston and Chicago don't get inundated with celebrities? Who cares! That's a great thing! Celebrities don't contribute anything positive to our culture that you or I need to care about. If they all want to live on the coasts, I say give me the Mid-Continent and let them keep their pretense and faux-activism.
I will say it again: Chicago does not need to be recognized by celebrities as being better than New York. It only needs to be recognized by Chicagoans as such. And so far, so good.
A lot of stuff ships through Houston too. It ships through Chicago by rail and Houston by boat. Houston has the 2nd largest port in the U.S. I think LA has the biggest port in terms of tonnage received and Houston's port is number 2. So Houston receives lots of goods by ship from the Gulf of Mexico. So Houston like Chicago is appreciated indirectly.
Superior for what? Maybe its superior for people who care about useless criteria like celebrities or for people who enjoy saing "We're #1!!!!!!!! NYC RULZ!!! CHICAGO IS TEH SUXXOR!!!!!!!!!!"
Its probably superior for people in the hedge fund or fashion industry. Its not superior for my personal situation.
I would say superior for: Money, power, shopping, lifestyle, architecture, fashion, weather, surrounding areas, etc
I'm not saying Chicago is bad. I'm just saying NYC is statistically superior in mostly every way.
I'm not one of the people on here that believes "being good" is a zero-sum game (meaning just because my city is good, yours has to suck). Is everyone on this board like 15 or something? There are so many childish insults thrown around on this board for the most ridiculous reasons. If you look at my history of posting, I'm not usually saying one city sucks in order to promote another city. I'll usually say what's good about one city, or say one aspect about another city isn't as good as the other city.
It would be refreshing to see posters list reasons why their city is good, not why the opposing city is bad. Let's cut out the slash-and-burn politics and turn this place into a civil forum.
--Chicago was popular until air travel became common.
--Oprah won't stage any new shows at her Chicago headquarters and can't move since she'll be accused of bashing Chicago. Her company likes to record them in Los Angeles and Manhattan/Brooklyn.
--Nobody thinks of Chicago in the media; they're cutting back their bureaus and only use Chicago as an example that they don't ignore the Great Middle when they actually do.
Got it wrong again
1. Los Angeles
2. New York City
3. San Francisco
4. Philadelphia
5. Houston
6. Atlanta
7. Dallas
8. Miami
9. Washington D.C.
...
20. Peoria
30. Springfield, IL
...
1000000000. Chicago
Again, who cares about celebrities? How does that improve your day-to-day life? Celebrities are among the most uneducated people in the country. They're attracted to anything with flashing lights and warm weather.
I know the Chicago part is a joke, but the rest of that list is pretty whacked out too haha, I hope the whole thing is a joke.
A lot of stuff ships through Houston too. It ships through Chicago by rail and Houston by boat. Houston has the 2nd largest port in the U.S. I think LA has the biggest port in terms of tonnage received and Houston's port is number 2. So Houston receives lots of goods by ship from the Gulf of Mexico. So Houston like Chicago is appreciated indirectly.
That's great. I think I might have heard that about Houston, but wasn't sure if it were true. Isn't it funny how cities that do things that matter often go largely unrecognized for it.
When you think about it, however, it does make sense. NY and LA are media capitals, and the media is going to focus on what is important to itself. Trading, shipping, industry, finance, and transportation are going to do likewise, I suppose.
[quote=tmac9wr;8812792]I would say superior for: Money, power, shopping, lifestyle, architecture, fashion, weather, surrounding areas, etc[quote]
I don't know really. I'll go into detail.
Money: It's true that people in NYC make more than those in Chicago. Let's say they make 10% more. Sounds great, but the cost of living in NYC is a lot more than 10% higher for the most part.
Power: Most New Yorkers aren't the powerful CEO's you'd stereotypically think of. Most of them are your average person, just barley making it by. I don't think the average New Yorker has anymore power than the average Chicagoan. If you mean the city as a whole then yes, NYC wins. The city is starting to loose power though. NYC is no where near the giant it was in the first part of the 20th century.
Shopping: Blow out for NYC
Lifestyle: Depends on living arangements. The density is amazing, but the cost is too high. I'd rather be comfortable in Chicago then just skating through in NYC.
Architecture: This one is a touchy subject. NYC wins in traditional Art Deco style buildings and Chicago wins in with Modern buildings. Overall, Chicago has the nicer skyline .
Fashion: Blow out NYC
Weather: About the same. They are both cold in the winter, Chicago's a bit colder, and hot in the summer, Chicago is a bit hotter.
Surrounding Areas: NYC is located in a very dense part of the country while Chicago is surrounded by farms, I guess it's what you're looking for. A lof of people think the closest thing to Chicago is Detroit, when actually its metro area ends just miles from Milwaukees, a metro of 2,000,000+
Hartsfield and O'Hare switch spots relatively regularly. Regardless, Chicago is one of the top airports in the world.
Don't forget, Chicago air traffic is split between Midway and O'hare. In 2008, O'hare had 880k flights, Midway 250k, and Hartsfield 978k.
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