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How about Norfolk? Low population and employment for a downtown in a metro its size. Competition with other cities in its metro and the fact that the city's employment magnet isn't downtown, but the naval base on the edge of town instead. I've always felt Norfolk should have a bigger downtown if it were to fit in with other metros in its peer group.
How about downtown Las Vegas? There's one or two casinos but not much else.
Seriously? The whole Fremont Street Experience? I know the majority of the visitors are tourists, but I still know a lot of locals go to the casinos along Fremont Street. Now, 10 years or more ago I would agree with you, but not today.
I agree with brewcrew. There isn't much going on south of Houston. SoHo, Tribeca, Lower East Side, Little Italy, Nolita, Chinatown, South Street Seaport are pretty empty these days. Very few good restaurants and no nightlife. I am sure downtown Kansas City is a lot more exciting.
It has been awhile since I've been to NY. What happened to those neighborhoods downtown? They were happening to me when I was there 7 years ago. By looking at these posts, it makes out that Dt. San Jose is better than NY. Is this a comic or just that NY declined so much? Please elaborate while my eyes have fallen to the floor in disbelief.http://pics3.city-data.com/forum/images/icons/icon9.gif
Philly, Houston, Dallas, Detroit, Phoenix, Atlanta, Miami, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, Cleveland and LA are least used by it people in the metro area.
I can't speak for other cities on this "hit list," but Cincinnati no longer belongs there; its revitalized downtown environs ("Over-The-Rhine") and riverfront ("The Banks") are attracting suburban metro people by the hundreds. (And I'm also hearing great things about Cleveland and its massive downtown revitalization.)
LA because it has so many other 'downtowns'. Other examples would be Phoenix, Las Vegas, Houston, Cleveland, Detroit.etc.
lmao metro area residents visit downtown Detroit for A LOT. Sports, Bars, Entertainment etc Most of the cultural attractions in this area are in midtown Detroit. The only thing not in our downtown currently is brand name retail (Macy's, Nordstroms etc)
How is it the place to be? There is nothing really going on in downtown New York compared to the other parts of Manhattan, all of the better restaurants are North of Houston, there isn't a whole lot in terms of events going on in downtown either.
Then I guess you've never been to Hudson river park, Washington market park, the room, bar89, theater bar south of Houston. Those were my usual spots Thurs-Sunday and there were always big crowds.
Doesn't sound like you've expanded your horizon much in NYC, SoHo, Tribeca, and LES are some of the very best urban nabes in the country.
It has been awhile since I've been to NY. What happened to those neighborhoods downtown? They were happening to me when I was there 7 years ago. By looking at these posts, it makes out that Dt. San Jose is better than NY. Is this a comic or just that NY declined so much? Please elaborate while my eyes have fallen to the floor in disbelief.http://pics3.city-data.com/forum/images/icons/icon9.gif
I was joking! TriBeCa? SoHo?? Hello?!? These are the hottest neighborhoods in the City (and the country, actually). Brewcrew obviously knows nothing about NY.
LA maybe because there are more "IT" places than just DTLA. But DTLA itself is a great place anyway. 500,000 people a day cram themselves in less than 5 sq miles.
500k? I know you're exaggerating.
Sounds like a high curve. Last I saw DTLA employed just under 180k, so you're seriously telling me it has the power to draw 320k additional people apart from the 180k that work there? Sounds like a big exaggeration on your part, I would find 240k-320k total is more reasonable (similar to CC Philly and DTSF) more realistic. 500k in 5 sqmi is a density of 100k per sqmi and you're not anywhere close to Manhattan.
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