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View Poll Results: Which city would you prefer to live in
Cincinatti 65 27.78%
Seattle 169 72.22%
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Old 03-18-2013, 09:10 PM
 
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Until then, Findlay Market - one of America's most dynamic markets along with Pike Place - will have to do. .

Are you actually comparing Findlay Market to Pike Place? Really? C'mon man. Get serious. Findlay gets less than a million visitors annually. (An estimated 881,409 shopping visits were made to Findlay Market in 2011.)

Pike Place exceeds 10 million annually. Pike Place Market is internationally recognized as America's premier farmers' market and is home to more than 200 year-round commercial businesses; 190 craftspeople and approximately 100 farmers who rent table space by the day; 240 street performers and musicians; and more than 300 apartment units, most of which provide housing for low-income elderly people. "The Market," as the locals affectionately say, attracts 10 million visitors a year, making it one of Washington state's most frequently visited destinations.

Not remotely close.
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Old 03-18-2013, 10:28 PM
 
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And findlay is the oldest functional market.
And less than 1/10 of the size and scope of Pike Place. Which pretty much sums up the comparison of the two downtowns. Cincy's is older. But Seattle's is just way bigger and better.
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Old 03-18-2013, 10:29 PM
 
Location: Chicago(Northside)
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And less than 1/10 of the size and scope of Pike Place. Which pretty much sums up the comparison of the two downtowns. Cincy's is older. But Seattle's is just way bigger and better.
Older doesnt always mean worst.
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Old 03-18-2013, 11:13 PM
 
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And how many are actual PPM shoppers vs. just mindless tourists clogging the aisle and jockeying for camera position waiting for the fish throws? Take away the tourists who don't buy a thing and those 10 million visitors is probably cut in half. When I was there in June, dozens of people were just standing there, buying nothing and with no bags from other stands, but were waiting for the fish so they could take a picture/video. So one of the obviously annoyed workers shouted at them and said "Now, is anyone going to actually buy something?"

Findlay Market is a real, breathing, vital market where you can get just about anything. PPM, while cool, is a trap luring dingy tourists with redundant flower shops, flying fish, a fake "original Starbucks location" and a handful of overpriced restaurants. I'll take real markets like Findlay Market, West Side Market in Cleveland, Public Market in Pittsburgh or Eastern Market in D.C. in a second over a tourist trap.
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Old 03-19-2013, 12:09 AM
 
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And how many are actual PPM shoppers vs. just mindless tourists clogging the aisle and jockeying for camera position waiting for the fish throws? Take away the tourists who don't buy a thing and those 10 million visitors is probably cut in half. When I was there in June, dozens of people were just standing there, buying nothing and with no bags from other stands, but were waiting for the fish so they could take a picture/video. So one of the obviously annoyed workers shouted at them and said "Now, is anyone going to actually buy something?"

Findlay Market is a real, breathing, vital market where you can get just about anything. PPM, while cool, is a trap luring dingy tourists with redundant flower shops, flying fish, a fake "original Starbucks location" and a handful of overpriced restaurants. I'll take real markets like Findlay Market, West Side Market in Cleveland, Public Market in Pittsburgh or Eastern Market in D.C. in a second over a tourist trap.

Priceless. As if PPM is something other than real, breathing or vital? You're clearly naive.

That's like the argument that it's so crowded no one goes there anymore. Seriously, you are desperate here. PPM is a gem. Where else can you get out of the doghouse with an a freaking amazing 5 dollar bouquet?

Nevermind. Seriously. If you feel Findlay Market is better, well enjoy it. It's a cool place. But it's like comparing the two cities. There really is no comparison.
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Old 03-19-2013, 12:43 AM
 
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Abr7rmj, please!! As a 13 yr resident of Seattle I can tell you first hand Pike Place Market is used and enjoyed every day by many local residents. Yes it has tourist but most are from the Puget Sound Region. I've purchased fresh fish, fresh flowers, seasonings, art, soap, fresh fruit and vegetables, books, cheddar cheese rolls and more. Ate at many of the restaurants and food stands. You mentioned a few markets you like. I use to live blocks from Eastern Market in DC and Pike Place Market blows it away. There is no comparison.
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Old 03-19-2013, 06:18 AM
 
Location: Cincinnati (Norwood)
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Since this unfair contrast between an American Tier II coastal city-vs-Tier III inland city has run its predetermined course, it's only fair that our Seattle contingent now challenge that Asian Tier I coastal city, Hong Kong. Start with small things first (say, fish markets), then move on up the scale to things like commerce, density, dining and entertainment, harbor size, architecture, and beauty, etc. (We'll all be watching.)
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Old 03-19-2013, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Seattle Area
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And how many are actual PPM shoppers vs. just mindless tourists clogging the aisle and jockeying for camera position waiting for the fish throws? Take away the tourists who don't buy a thing and those 10 million visitors is probably cut in half. When I was there in June, dozens of people were just standing there, buying nothing and with no bags from other stands, but were waiting for the fish so they could take a picture/video. So one of the obviously annoyed workers shouted at them and said "Now, is anyone going to actually buy something?"

Findlay Market is a real, breathing, vital market where you can get just about anything. PPM, while cool, is a trap luring dingy tourists with redundant flower shops, flying fish, a fake "original Starbucks location" and a handful of overpriced restaurants. I'll take real markets like Findlay Market, West Side Market in Cleveland, Public Market in Pittsburgh or Eastern Market in D.C. in a second over a tourist trap.
Pike Place Market is the soul of Seattle and it is a "real" market, just as real as the other markets you mention. As a local I've been shopping there for 50+ years.
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Old 03-19-2013, 09:54 AM
 
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Priceless. As if PPM is something other than real, breathing or vital? You're clearly naive.

That's like the argument that it's so crowded no one goes there anymore. Seriously, you are desperate here. PPM is a gem. Where else can you get out of the doghouse with an a freaking amazing 5 dollar bouquet?

Nevermind. Seriously. If you feel Findlay Market is better, well enjoy it. It's a cool place. But it's like comparing the two cities. There really is no comparison.
You're right, there really is no comparison.

Seattle is a very nice city whose residents have a false sense of superiority concerning anyone who lives in flyover country, "How could our great city be compared to such a backwater town? We have so many coffee shops and ethnic eateries".

Cincinnati is also a very nice city, but a city that has left an undeniable mark on American history, contributing a slew of presidents and important people.

It could be argued Seattle's influence on this country was as long and as important as the tenure of Nirvana, which to some may mean more than others, but simply there is no comparison to Cincinnati's great influence and importance to the history of our country.

You can take your coffee shops, abundance of small theaters, and a general sense of baseless superiority.

I'll take historical significance, diverse and varied historic architecture, a Reds game on a summer night overlooking the Ohio River and the hills of Kentucky, and fall friday nights at high schools around the tri-state (an atmosphere that can only be matched in Texas) over these things any day.
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