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As a native Texan, looking over this list of choices made me understand for the first time how little I like the South. It would be difficult for me to relocate to any of these places. Maybe Houston or Austin, if I'm picking a dog in this fight?
No less than Atlanta, the "Capital of the South" does. Some people (I don't think you have any basis for saying most) don't think of Texas as the south, due to their lack of knowledge about the state. That's all.
Hell, this state is so huge, a lot of native Texans don't even know Houston or Dallas that well, so I can't be surprised that people from out of state wouldn't know what they're talking about.
If only everyone could be the observant, erudite individual that I am.
Well, no, Nairobi, I said many don't recognize the souherness of Texas but not most. Most probably do but many don't. These that don't probably consider it a western state for some reason. Personally I don't know anyone in Louisiana who said such.
As a native Texan, looking over this list of choices made me understand for the first time how little I like the South. It would be difficult for me to relocate to any of these places. Maybe Houston or Austin, if I'm picking a dog in this fight?
Well, everything isn't for everyone. We all have our own idea of utopia.
You can say downtown is dead. But to say the city was dead shows me that you didn't get around or didnt know where to go. You're not going to be bored or have nothing to find in a metro of 6 million people.
I never said I was bored. I said, I thought it was pretty dead for a city of it's size. When I go to big cities, generally, I'm going to be within a 3-5 mile radius of downtown most of the time...you don't go to big cities to visit it's suburbs unless you're visiting family or specifically going to a venue. As a tourist, downtown is one of the first places I would think to go. Downtowns/CBDs are generally where a lot of the action should be happening. In Atlanta, that's mainly the case(Downtown/Midtown).
You do have a point. In a nation with a culture that's educated by the television, it's definitely understandable. We'll have to simply keep vying for more reality shows and such.
So, yes, it is our fault. What was I thinking by suggesting that Americans should be more proactive in learning about their own country? The nerve of me.
You can't expect people to be proactive...you have to spoonfeed people. That has always been the case. People either don't want to put in the effort or time to learn about cities so you have to market your city as such.
If Atlanta and Miami can market themselves as exciting southern metropolises, then certainly Dallas and Houston should be able too, even if that means getting Reality shows or other things that show off the city.
Well, no, Nairobi, I said many don't recognize the souherness of Texas but not most. Most probably do but many don't. These that don't probably consider it a western state for some reason. Personally I don't know anyone in Louisiana who said such.
Because of a legacy of stereotypes being fan from westerns. Texas is a huge state, West Texas is nothing like North, East and Texas gulf which are cultural southern.
Ever notice the Texas population is adjusted to the rest of the south or eastern half the state. Most Texans generally identify as southerns there's cultural reasons for this.
DFW, Houston and East Texas is straight up the South.
San Antonio, and Austin, are culturally hybrids
West Texas is straight up western.
I remember in my Texas history class we had to do a project and divide Texas up into 5 states. Base on the history that Texas was given the option to divide up obvious it never happen. But it's sort of how Texas is culturally is regionally.
Very nice graphics, Chiatldal. Yes I live about 15 miles from the Texas border. Much of it is deep southern til you get to DFW which is still southern but NEW SOUTH. Beyond that, still southern, but then once you get to Pecos things get more southwestern then finally total transformation in El Paso. Oh yeah, I've seen many westerns depicting Texas with cactuses and the like. Matter of fact, in two short weeks we are driving to Tucson for a family visit. 1100 mile drive from here with 800 some odd just to El Paso alone.
You can't expect people to be proactive...you have to spoonfeed people. That has always been the case. People either don't want to put in the effort or time to learn about cities so you have to market your city as such.
If Atlanta and Miami can market themselves as exciting southern metropolises, then certainly Dallas and Houston should be able too, even if that means getting Reality shows or other things that show off the city.
You honestly don't think Dallas or Houston promote themselves well?
Because of a legacy of stereotypes being fan from westerns. Texas is a huge state, West Texas is nothing like North, East and Texas gulf which are cultural southern.
Ever notice the Texas population is adjusted to the rest of the south or eastern half the state. Most Texans generally identify as southerns there's cultural reasons for this.
DFW, Houston and East Texas is straight up the South.
San Antonio, and Austin, are culturally hybrids
West Texas is straight up western.
I remember in my Texas history class we had to do a project and divide Texas up into 5 states. Base on the history that Texas was given the option to divide up obvious it never happen. But it's sort of how Texas is culturally is regionally.
Good post bro. I'm always interested to see the breakdowns of Texas by region. My only change is that DFW belongs with the Great Plains of North and West Central Texas while the Tyler/Longview area belongs with the state that encompasses Houston and Beaumont.
I do think DFW is a hybrid as well between Great Plains, Western, and Southern whereas Houston is more Southern. There are parts of DFW that seem like they have elements of the lower Midwest too.
You honestly don't think Dallas or Houston promotes itself well?
I don't think Houston promotes itself well, but I don't think that's an excuse for people being ignorant about it.
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