Greater Los Angeles vs New York/ Tri State area: Which metro area is more diverse? (difference, beach)
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I wasn't arguing that the westside is less white than Manhattan. I was just making the argument that the westside has less cultural influence over the metropolis than Manhattan does.
LA is famous for its decentralization ("88 suburbs in search of a city..") and this extends to the culture as well. This characteristic is commonly bemoaned for the negatives (less arts/culture patronage, no "cultural heart," less civic pride, difficulty with regional planning, etc.), but I see a positive in that LA feels much less "top down" culturally than NYC metro. This leads to a different experience of diversity, in my opinion, for better or worse.
Umm LA is famous for its movie culture more than that or anything else. It's the biggest part of it's culture. If anything is the authority in LA culture it's the movie industry which is predominantly white more so than Manhattan's culture.
Umm LA is famous for its movie culture more than that or anything else. It's the biggest part of it's culture. If anything is the authority in LA culture it's the movie industry which is predominantly white more so than Manhattan's culture.
The entertainment industry dominates the city's cultural exports. That's very different from the city's civic culture.
What a city is famous for can be very different from what the actual lived experience is there.
The culture that surrounds the entertainment industry is actually quite segregated from the rest of the city and has very little impact on the day-to-day lives of people living in Koreatown, Leimert Park, Long Beach, Boyle Heights, etc.
The identity of being a "New Yorker" is magnitudes more related to manhattan than being an "Angeleno" is related to the westside. Again, this cultural decentralization/fragmentation is something that is regularly brought up as a sleight against Los Angeles... I'm just arguing that it has it's good or interesting aspects as well.
It is a common trope (and reality..) for New Yorkers to move to Los Angeles and go looking for the cultural center of the metropolis. They go to the heart of the entertainment industry because it's white and rich and famous (ahh! this must be where they control culture around here!)... And they can't stand it. They write off all of Los Angeles as a vapid cultural wasteland.
Most often the New Yorkers then either assimilate (because they secretly love the vapid materialism), or they leave LA, vowing to never return.
Sometimes, though, they go exploring on their own and find something that didn't quite fit their expectation. They dig a little deeper... find a unique history/culture/experience nobody ever told them about in Hollywood. Because, as it turns out, the entertainment industry elites don't know anything about Los Angeles.
They get to know the "real" Los Angeles...
and they fall in love.
What are we comparing here? NYC has: More types of Europeans MORE MORE types of Blacks (from Africa AND Caribbean) MORE Asians (in city limits, lol @ using metro area, pathetic) MORE Hispanics (in city limits, plus way more diverse)
I think New York is a bit overrated. Yes it is nice and has good public transportation and walkability...but otherwise, Los Angeles offers the same as NYC, with a slightly cheaper price, better weather, better beaches, better natural scenery, and more Middle Easterners. And, despite a lot of fake people, I think Los Angelenos are friendlier as a whole than New Yorkers.
The entertainment industry dominates the city's cultural exports. That's very different from the city's civic culture.
What a city is famous for can be very different from what the actual lived experience is there.
The culture that surrounds the entertainment industry is actually quite segregated from the rest of the city and has very little impact on the day-to-day lives of people living in Koreatown, Leimert Park, Long Beach, Boyle Heights, etc.
The identity of being a "New Yorker" is magnitudes more related to manhattan than being an "Angeleno" is related to the westside. Again, this cultural decentralization/fragmentation is something that is regularly brought up as a sleight against Los Angeles... I'm just arguing that it has it's good or interesting aspects as well.
Yeah because Manhattan's rich white people are sure impacting people in Chinatown, Harlem, Bronx etc. Sorry you have no idea what you are talking about. It's just ridiculous to think that rich white people of Manhattan impacts the dozens of cultural groups all around NYC.
I think New York is a bit overrated. Yes it is nice and has good public transportation and walkability...but otherwise, Los Angeles offers the same as NYC, with a slightly cheaper price, better weather, better beaches, better natural scenery, and more Middle Easterners. And, despite a lot of fake people, I think Los Angelenos are friendlier as a whole than New Yorkers.
NYC is very underrated if anything. Most people have no idea just how insanely dominant the city is. It has much more going for it than what you describe. It's funny how people have this impression that LA is a west coast equivalent of NYC or something, when NYC beats the tar out of LA by almost any objective metric. It is a completely different class of city.
NYC is very underrated if anything. Most people have no idea just how insanely dominant the city is. It has much more going for it than what you describe. It's funny how people have this impression that LA is a west coast equivalent of NYC or something, when NYC beats the tar out of LA by almost any objective metric. It is a completely different class of city.
Wouldn't even bother with him. The guy states his personal opinions (a whole lot of them just quite ridiculous) as if they are facts. Seems to be difficult for him to figure out in his head that people have different taste in things. What's especially ridiculous is that he doesn't realize that he is a minority in this country that doesn't live under snow and would consider anything starting from Texas panhandle and further up too cold lol.
Aren't LA Mexicans actively ethnically cleansing African Americans in LA? Why isn't the Federal Government doing anything about it?
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