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City proper boundaries are completely arbitrary. It takes a grand total of 4 MARTA stops to get from Midtown Atlanta to "suburbs" that are 60%+ Latino. In almost any other city, these neighborhoods would be part of the central city proper.
I'm sorry, but city proper comparisons are generally pretty awful.
Depends. Since the OP is talking about moving to either CITY... why then would we compare Metro areas... doesn't make sense to me.
Atlanta:
132 sq miles
Population: 432,427
Density: 3,154
Philadelphia: 134 sq miles
Population: 1,536,471
Density: 11,379
I wouldn't say it's necessarily embarrassing. It's just that one city is considerably denser. It's hard to know what the OP prefers, as many are just projecting their own preferences onto the OP. OP - do you prefer dense and walkable, or the more sunbelt feel of Atlanta? Also, what are your climate preferences: a longer and more humid summer and shorter milder, winter or vice versa: Climate Comparison for Atlanta, GA and Philadelphia, PA?
One rabbit hole I do see some posters going down is to compare MSA stats. Unless the OP is interested in living in the burbs, I'm not sure what value these data offer. I live smack dab in the middle of Center City Philadelphia. I can do almost everything I ever want within a 1 mile radius of my home. I could care less about what is going on in the suburbs. It would seem to OP would be more interested in how Midtown ATL compares with the central areas of Philly (Center City or adjacent neighborhoods).
It's not embarrassing; both cities are simply products of the time in which they came of age.
When you think about it, it's pretty amazing that Atlanta can compete with Philadelphia at all given the huge head start Philly had.
I agree with your first statement.
As for the 2nd, the only competition in this thread is which would be better for the OP to live in based on his criteria. There are plenty of Philly and ATL homers on this forum, and I could easily see your comment leading to all manner of irrelevant comparisons (GDP, most millionaires, celebrities living there, most movies based there, nicest suburbs, etc.) which have little to no bearing on the matter at hand. I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt that you didn't really mean to offer a baiting comment.
Since you brought up "competition," however, why not state which city you think would best compete for the OP's attention? And why?
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As for the 2nd, the only competition in this thread is which would be better for the OP to live in based on his criteria. There are plenty of Philly and ATL homers on this forum, and I could easily see your comment leading to all manner of irrelevant comparisons (GDP, most millionaires, celebrities living there, most movies based there, nicest suburbs, etc.) which have little to no bearing on the matter at hand. I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt that you didn't really mean to offer a baiting comment.
Since you brought up "competition," however, why not state which city you think would best compete for the OP's attention? And why?
No, not baiting at all, and I was just speaking in general.
As I said, this is a tough choice. I'd give the edge to Philly on the cultural/urban front and its location within the Bos-Wash corridor, but Atlanta's weather is more tolerable to me. While neither are expensive cities, Atlanta wins out on COL also. But Philly is more unique than Atlanta, IMO.
For me, if it came down to nightlife being a bit more important and having more single women around, I'd go with Atlanta. If it came down to culture and a more urban scene, I'd go with Philly.
No, not baiting at all, and I was just speaking in general.
As I said, this is a tough choice. I'd give the edge to Philly on the cultural/urban front and its location within the Bos-Wash corridor, but Atlanta's weather is more tolerable to me. While neither are expensive cities, Atlanta wins out on COL also. But Philly is more unique than Atlanta, IMO.
For me, if it came down to nightlife being a bit more important and having more single women around, I'd go with Atlanta. If it came down to culture and a more urban scene, I'd go with Philly.
Philadelphia DEFINITELY has a stronger nightlife scene. Atlanta caters the most towards the African American crowd but Philadelphia's serves everyone. On top of that, Philadelphia's walk-ability and good public transit only add to the better nightlife scene.
There are also more women in Philadelphia... and MANY more college students. So therefore the likelihood of finding a single woman in Philadelphia is greater than the likelihood you will do so in Atlanta.
Philadelphia DEFINITELY has a stronger nightlife scene. Atlanta caters the most towards the African American crowd but Philadelphia's serves everyone. On top of that, Philadelphia's walk-ability and good public transit only add to the better nightlife scene.
There are also more women in Philadelphia... and MANY more college students. So therefore the likelihood of finding a single woman in Philadelphia is greater than the likelihood you will do so in Atlanta.
Because there's a higher proportion of the population that's African American in Atlanta, people think that nightlife and other stuff ONLY caters towards African Americans but that's not true at all--it's a huge misconception. Yes the nightlife caters towards African Americans more so than many other cities its size, but to say that it caters ONLY or MOSTLY towards African Americans? Nope, not accurate at all.
Not sure where you're getting the stat from as far as Philly having more women, but since the OP is in his 40's, I doubt he's interested in college-aged co-eds.
Atlanta has a better scene for Korean karaoke and Korean stuff in general. Just so happens I'm primarily into Korean chicks, Atlanta it is.
As far as nightlife and women go, I think it probably depends on one's particular niche and preferences, so I shouldn't say that the OP should choose Atlanta for those factors, generally speaking.
As far as nightlife and women go, I think it probably depends on one's particular niche and preferences, so I shouldn't say that the OP should choose Atlanta for those factors, generally speaking.
Yeah I know, I just wanted to add that not all of Atlanta's entertainment options are for African Americans. There are over 4 million people who aren't African American in Greater Atlanta, I'm sure those people have stuff to do.
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