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View Poll Results: Which would be Most Awesome of they where the size of Atlanta or Dallas
Raleigh with a Metro of 6 million people 12 9.60%
Memphis with a Metro of 6 million people 8 6.40%
Jacksonville with a Metro of 6 million people 9 7.20%
Nashville with a Metro of 6 million people 33 26.40%
New Orleans with a Metro of 6 million people 35 28.00%
Austin with a Metro of 6 million people 28 22.40%
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Old 04-11-2013, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Austin, Texas
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What do you mean by "messy" and "crippling"?
Well, New Orleans already has a reputation for being kind of dirty and rundown outside of the nightlife spots. Also consider a lot of the land in the NO area is swampy marshland. I'm not sure how anybody could plan to stuff 6 million people in that area and have it still be comfortable and clean when the city has a very grimy reputation outside of its tourist spots already.
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Old 04-11-2013, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Austin, Texas
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I don't really want Austin with 6 million people either.

My "ideal" Austin would be to have a metro of around 2.5-3 million with considerably more infill, density, and public transportation, and a bit more pronounced African-American population. Houston and Dallas already have the 6 million metro taken care of in Texas.
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Old 04-11-2013, 09:31 AM
 
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Well, New Orleans already has a reputation for being kind of dirty and rundown outside of the nightlife spots. Also consider a lot of the land in the NO area is swampy marshland. I'm not sure how anybody could plan to stuff 6 million people in that area and have it still be comfortable and clean when the city has a very grimy reputation outside of its tourist spots already.
I'm pretty sure land towards the north would be developed, which is less swampy--and incidentally, at 6 million it would probably be combined with Baton Rouge. And many of the outlying neighborhoods and suburbs aren't dirty and rundown, but just as normal as they can be.
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Old 04-11-2013, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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It is tough to imagine these cities that much larger. Which one would be best would honestly depend on how they grew. A few thoughts:

New Orleans: Hands down the best "culture" out of this group. Would that culture be able to survive such an influx of people? Already pretty dense in the core, so would the core expand, or are we talking about just getting huge suburbs? As others have said, a lot of the land around NOLA isn't very usable. I think NOLA would be best around 3 million people.

Austin: kind of similar to NOLA, it has good culture (though not to the same extent). I would hate to see it lose that and become just another big Texas city. A state that already has Houston and Dallas it seems it would be tough for it to justify sports teams, etc.

Raleigh on the other hand is a pretty spread out metro that in some ways lacks culture. If Raleigh's growth to 6 million was accomplished while keeping its high education rate and keeping crime low, plus developing more of a city center it could be an absolutely fantastic place. It has the colleges already. It also has a great location between the northeast and the southeast, which gives it pretty easy access to lots of big cities and also gives it a nice temperate climate with all four seasons, but relatively mild winters. I could actually see it becoming an extension of the Bos-Wash corridor which would be really cool.
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Old 04-11-2013, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Up on the moon laughing down on you
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I don't really want Austin with 6 million people either.

My "ideal" Austin would be to have a metro of around 2.5-3 million with considerably more infill, density, and public transportation, and a bit more pronounced African-American population. Houston and Dallas already have the 6 million metro taken care of in Texas.
It would be nice if Austin contracted.
Not lose population but have the growth not spread over the scenery.
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Old 04-11-2013, 09:55 AM
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Location: Fort Worth
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Austin is working on being more densely populated, and could possibly become THE most dense city in Texas over time.

But I'm pretty sure suburbs will grow as well.
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Nashville/Memphis
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To satisfy the Charlotte boosters.....could someone tell us what a Giant Charlotte would look like....it ll probably be closing in on 6 million by 2030...

important to remember way before its metro hits 6 million the Actual CITY of Charlotte will have a Population of 1 million in its city limits alone, in 10-15 years, first in the southeast to do so ....so that has to have a factor in the way Metrolina grows doesn't it
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:16 AM
 
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To satisfy the Charlotte boosters.....could someone tell us what a Giant Charlotte would look like....it ll probably be closing in on 6 million by 2030...
The metro area population is not going to more than double in less than 20 years. That won't happen.

But it would probably resemble Dallas somewhat with a more bulked up urban core, expanding LRT, and tons of 'burbs. The exurban areas of Charlotte and the Triad, Columbia, and the Upstate would start bleeding into each other seamlessly.
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Old 04-11-2013, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Up on the moon laughing down on you
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Austin is working on being more densely populated, and could possibly become THE most dense city in Texas over time.

But I'm pretty sure suburbs will grow as well.
Well anywhere COULD be the most densely populated City in Texas over time, but I don't think overall density means much because of the metro sized city limits that these Texas cities have, although Dallas, Fort Worth and Austin are all about 300- 350 sq miles.

Radial density is more insightful, and Austin has miles to go before it catches up to Houston and Dallas

1 M radius
Austin-11.6K pop, 4000 ppsm density
Dallas -14k @ 4400ppsm
Houston- 21K at 5600 ppsm

5 Mile Radius
Austin - 285K at 3700ppsm
Dallas- 330K at 4200ppsm
Houston- 375K at 4800 ppsm

10 mile radius
Austin- 710K at 2327 ppsm
Dallas- 1100K at 3600ppsm
Houston- 1302K at 4175

25 Miles radius
Austin-1471K at 767 ppsm
Dallas- 4168k at 2200 ppsm
Houston- 4700K at 2483 ppsm


So Austin's Density stretching out from the Core is above 4000 ppsm for only 1M, while Houston's stretches for more than 10Miles at that density. Austin seems to be up there if you stay downtown, but if you live the core you would see that they still have a lot of catching up to do to match Houston and Dallas.

Austin needs to double its city population and pack all this people in a 10 mile radius around the core just to match Houston's inner 10 sq miles.

It needs more than tripple its population in its inner 25 mile radius to catch up with Houston


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Old 04-11-2013, 05:37 PM
 
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New Orleans has been hit hard by nature yet it is still the Paris of the South. Atlanta is the London of the South and Houston is the Berlin of the South. Austin/San Antonio is the SoCal of the South,& DFW is the New York of the South
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