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View Poll Results: Which is more urban?
Washington D.C. 21 14.79%
Philadelphia P.A. 121 85.21%
Voters: 142. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-18-2013, 01:49 PM
 
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Office View Golden Hour | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

This is from an area of 40K+ ppsm density

while I agree DC probably has more buildings in the 5 story range I think you are over playing this aspect

For example is this area in DC significantly more urban
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=washi...27.87,,0,-2.31


than say this
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Phila...,99.34,,0,4.09


Or this
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=washi...351.71,,0,1.89

Compared to this


or this
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=washi...,150.1,,0,0.94

Compared to this
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Phila...96.42,,0,-5.77

to this
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=washi...,100.7,,0,1.05

compared to this
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Phila...285.7,,0,-3.88

Considering this is what you get in the Philly shot when you turn around and it gets less urban the further you go, I will have to say yes. I will give you Center City and D.C. can't compare with the skyscrapers, but outside of that, it's single family homes.

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Phila...9,,0,4.09&z=15
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Old 04-18-2013, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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You seem to have forgot that residential building's are not the only type of buildings.

You want to go back and count the office buildings now.
I was just going by a visual approximation - I obviously didn't count anything. Seems as if the vast majority of the office buildings are within that "1/3" of DC that posted as residential towers.

I think I was being more than generous by saying that DC is 1/3 highly developed apartment buildings and offices. I mean, a 1/3 of the city being highly developed is very good, until you realize that DC is 60-something square miles.
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Old 04-18-2013, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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Considering this is what you get in the Philly shot when you turn around and it gets less urban the further you go, I will have to say yes. I will give you Center City and D.C. can't compare with the skyscrapers, but outside of that, it's single family homes.

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Phila...9,,0,4.09&z=15
LOL so is DC!

It's ironic that you are criticizing Philly for being a rowhouse city when... DC is one too! Sure it has a larger area of apartment buildings and office buildings, but not by much. And Philly's rowhouse neighborhoods are way more expansive than DC's. DC's fall off into suburban-style SFH's very quickly.
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Old 04-18-2013, 01:52 PM
 
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And this picture below is exactly what I am talking about. I have said I will give you Center City which is a very urban small skyscraper area D.C. can't compete with, but outside of that, it's single family home's. At street level, that just can't compare. You don't get the same feel or hustle and bustle as apartment neighborhoods. You know that as well as I do. Half of my family lives in Philly and Baltimore. Rowhouse neighborhoods just don't have that commercial feel of Dupont Circle, Columbia Heights, Logan Circle, U Street/MidCity, and Shaw etc.

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Old 04-18-2013, 01:56 PM
 
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LOL so is DC!

It's ironic that you are criticizing Philly for being a rowhouse city when... DC is one too! Sure it has a larger area of apartment buildings and office buildings, but not by much. And Philly's rowhouse neighborhoods are way more expansive than DC's. DC's fall off into suburban-style SFH's very quickly.

D.C.'s core is WAY larger then Philadelphia's before it gives way losing it's urbanity to rowhouse's. D.C. has twice the amount of buildings as Philadelphia and the city is half the land area of Philly. This is really not close.
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Old 04-18-2013, 02:10 PM
 
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Sorry MD but you're one delusional poster, almost everyone in this thread is arguing against your ridiculous attempts to make DC much more urban and grandiose than what it really is, just accept that DC in comparison to Philly is a smaller city and much less dense, even some of your fellow DC posters are arguing against you LOL
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Old 04-18-2013, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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^^ You claim there is nowhere outside of Center City? What about University City? Very little in the way of rowhomes, most of it is highrise or midrise residential/office/medical/institutional buildings.


http://images.fineartamerica.com/ima...an-pearson.jpg

If you ask me, very DC-esk at street level.
Google Maps
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Old 04-18-2013, 02:13 PM
 
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and please don't bring LA in this conversation, LA kills DC in everything except heavy rail, just do yourself a favor and bow out gracefully
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Old 04-18-2013, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Highrises? Sure, but there are no skyscrapers... and those highrises aren't very tall. There are only 7 buildings taller than 200 ft... and the Washington Monument.
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Old 04-18-2013, 02:17 PM
 
Location: The City
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And this picture below is exactly what I am talking about. I have said I will give you Center City which is a very urban small skyscraper area D.C. can't compete with, but outside of that, it's single family home's. At street level, that just can't compare. You don't get the same feel or hustle and bustle as apartment neighborhoods. You know that as well as I do. Half of my family lives in Philly and Baltimore. Rowhouse neighborhoods just don't have that commercial feel of Dupont Circle, Columbia Heights, Logan Circle, U Street/MidCity, and Shaw etc.

Not sure I totally agree as even the areas you mention give way to rowhomes a block or so off the main streets and there are comparably developed areas out of CC as well like U City, No Libs, Templetown etc

And while a place like Dupont Circle is maybe more urban or different than say No Libs or Logan Circel to U City there are also no nabes in DC like a Rittenhouse or Washinton West, maybe not even an Old City. Plus much of DC loses urbanity more quickly beyond those. Not sure there is anything like a Bella Vista or Queen Village or Art Museum neighborhood which predomitely rowhomes are likely a more urban incarnation than any rowhome neighborhood in DC.

On the whole I find Philly more urban - many agree, some disagree but the urban footprint at the most urban is moreso in Philly and with continuity of structurally dense developemt is significantly larger. Maybe DC 1 mile from the center core point is a step above but not a runaway either.

I just dont see your position as being anywhere near as definative as you do (actually I disagree with it)

I mean South Philly from Washington to Snyder and Delaware to Broad is as dense in residential population as the densest nabes in all of DC, albeit probably 90% rowhomes and is by no means the core, 2,3,4 neighborhoods removed actually
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