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Tier IV
10. Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Gainesville, GA-AL $276.197 Billion
11. Miami-Ft Lauderdale-Pompano Beach, FL Metro Area $261.263 Billion
12. Seattle-Tacoma-Olympia, WA CSA $240.808 Billion
13. Detroit-Warren-Flint, MI CSA $236.457 Billion
Updating my list. I prefer to use the CSA because the MSA has illogical seperations of completely urbanized areas like LA/ Riverside, SF/San Jose, and DC/ Baltimore, while combining places like Dallas/ Ft. Worth. CSA gives better view of overall impact of a Metro rather than what seems like arbitrary borders in some cases.
I would say Houston is the oldest child (in real life and on CD) because:
-It has the most substance
-Its the largest -It looks down on the other two cities
-Has a superiority complex
-Economically, its really big in one area (Oil and Energy), but its not as well rounded
-Is a very business oriented city, focuses more on substance than fun
Um....really???? I wasn't aware we felt superior to Dallas and Atlanta.
Tier IV
10. Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Gainesville, GA-AL $276.197 Billion
11. Miami-Ft Lauderdale-Pompano Beach, FL Metro Area $261.263 Billion
12. Seattle-Tacoma-Olympia, WA CSA $240.808 Billion
13. Detroit-Warren-Flint, MI CSA $236.457 Billion
Updating my list. I prefer to use the CSA because the MSA has illogical seperations of completely urbanized areas like LA/ Riverside, SF/San Jose, and DC/ Baltimore, while combining places like Dallas/ Ft. Worth. CSA gives better view of overall impact of a Metro rather than what seems like arbitrary borders in some cases.
No offense, but anyone who thinks Dallas and Fort Worth should be divided into two different metros or MSA isn't very familiar with the area. They really do operate as single metro. I do agree that GDP is the best way to make this list though.
Um....really???? I wasn't aware we felt superior to Dallas and Atlanta.
As much as I would hate to say it, I think Austin is the city with a "superiority complex" in Texas. Really, I think LAnative's sibling rivalry analogy could work better Houston, Dallas, Austin, and San Antonio. No one in Texas gives much thought to Atlanta outside of CD. I would say the only reason Texans on CD keep talking about Atlanta is because a hand full of posters seem to demand attention for their city on so many threads (kind of like a little sibling ). But in the real world, no one in Texas cares about Atlanta unless they have some kind of ties to the city.
No offense, but anyone who thinks Dallas and Fort Worth should be divided into two different metros or MSA isn't very familiar with the area. They really do operate as single metro. I do agree that GDP is the best way to make this list though.
None taken. My point is Dallas/ Ft Worth is analagous to LA/ Riverside, SF/ San Jose, and DC/ Baltimore is all. That's why I used the CSA. Nothing more or less.
Last edited by Rhymes with Best Coast; 11-13-2009 at 01:47 PM..
None take. My point is Dallas/ Ft Worth is analagous to LA/ Riverside, SF/ San Jose, and DC/ Baltimore is all. Nothing more or less.
I can't say I know about those metros enough to disagree. LA/ Riverside seem to be in the same metro. That's the one area that I don't understand why they separate it into two different metros. Maybe because Riverside is so far from LA? I don't know. I could see how the census people could separate San Jose from SF because San Jose is a huge city (bigger than San Francisco as I'm sure you know) and has very large economy. But must people on CD and in real life seam to think it's all the Bay Area, and I've never lived there (hopefully one day I will ), so I can't really argue against it. However, I had never heard of the DC and Baltimore being the same metro until CD. From what I understand, those are two different cities with two different economies and cultures even if they do share a few suburbs. Dallas and Fort Worth had decided early on to grow as the same metro with the same culture. It seems like LA/ Riverside and San Jose/ SF have kind of the same story even if they don't market it like the DFW.
I can't say I know about those metros enough to disagree. LA/ Riverside seem to be in the same metro. That's the one area that I don't understand why they separate it into two different metros. Maybe because Riverside is so far from LA? I don't know. I could see how the census people could separate San Jose from SF because San Jose is a huge city (bigger than San Francisco as I'm sure you know) and has very large economy. But must people on CD and in real life seam to think it's all the Bay Area, and I've never lived there (hopefully one day I will ), so I can't really argue against it. However, I had never heard of the DC and Baltimore being the same metro until CD. From what I understand, those are two different cities with two different economies and cultures even if they do share a few suburbs. Dallas and Fort Worth had decided early on to grow as the same metro with the same culture. It seems like LA/ Riverside and San Jose/ SF have kind of the same story even if they don't market it like the DFW.
Just going by Google maps to guage distance, LA to Riverside is about 60 miles. Dallas to Ft. Worth is about 36 miles. DC to Baltimore is about 39. The southern edge of SF to San Jose is about 43 miles.
So if you think LA/ Riverside is definately in the same Metro, the others should easily be in the same just by distance alone. The fact that each of these regions have completely unfettered urbanization between them is another factor. Commute patterns is another. I mean, the CSA incorporates these for the most part, but the MSA does not. That's the only point I was making. And why divisions by MSA do not really make sense because it divides cities that are very close and have interdependence with each other.
SF/ San Jose is interesting because the nascent city (San Jose) grew larger than SF. But it's universally undeniable that San Jose would not even exist were it not for San Francisco.
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