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Old 06-14-2012, 11:03 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Originally Posted by TheFlats View Post
1A: NYC
1B: LA

2A: DMV, Chicago, Bay Area
I'd say these are the top 5 cities. The rest get harder to rank.

 
Old 06-14-2012, 11:26 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Originally Posted by TheFlats View Post
1A: NYC
1B: LA

2A: DMV, Chicago, Bay Area
I think this list is agreeable, but I really do think Chicago is on L.A.'s level.
 
Old 06-15-2012, 12:42 AM
 
Location: East Coast
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In order of importance from left to right.

a + if that city's prominence is rising, a - if it's decreasing, and an = if it is staying the same.


Tier 1a: NYC =
Tier 1b: LA =, Chicago =, DC =, San Fran =
Tier 2: Houston ++, ATL +, Boston =, Miami =, Dallas +, Philly -
Tier 3a: Seattle =, Minneapolis +
Tier 3b: Denver +, Charlotte +, San Diego =, Pittsburgh +, Detroit --, St. Louis -, Cleveland -, Phoenix +
Tier 4: San Antonio =, Cinncinati =, Kansas City +, Indianapolis +, Portland +, Austin ++, Columbus +
Tier 5: Las Vegas =, Tampa =, Orlando =, Milwaukee =, Nashville +, Baltimore -, New Orleans =
Non Tiered (worthwhile mentions): Richmond, Sacramento, Raleigh, Memphis,

Tier 1a is in a league of its own.
Tier 1b have significant global recognition and immense stature domestically.
Tier 2 are very important nationally, but have less impact globally.
Tier 3a and 3b have regional importance domestically, with limited impact globally.
Tier 4 are important cities within their states and then have limited importance regionally.
Tier 5 includes oddball major tourist spots and less significant domestic cities.
 
Old 06-15-2012, 04:08 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Originally Posted by MrIndependent View Post
In order of importance from left to right.

a + if that city's prominence is rising, a - if it's decreasing, and an = if it is staying the same.


Tier 1a: NYC =
Tier 1b: LA =, Chicago =, DC =, San Fran =
Tier 2: Houston ++, ATL +, Boston =, Miami =, Dallas +, Philly -
Tier 3a: Seattle =, Minneapolis +
Tier 3b: Denver +, Charlotte +, San Diego =, Pittsburgh +, Detroit --, St. Louis -, Cleveland -, Phoenix +
Tier 4: San Antonio =, Cinncinati =, Kansas City +, Indianapolis +, Portland +, Austin ++, Columbus +
Tier 5: Las Vegas =, Tampa =, Orlando =, Milwaukee =, Nashville +, Baltimore -, New Orleans =
Non Tiered (worthwhile mentions): Richmond, Sacramento, Raleigh, Memphis,

Tier 1a is in a league of its own.
Tier 1b have significant global recognition and immense stature domestically.
Tier 2 are very important nationally, but have less impact globally.
Tier 3a and 3b have regional importance domestically, with limited impact globally.
Tier 4 are important cities within their states and then have limited importance regionally.
Tier 5 includes oddball major tourist spots and less significant domestic cities.
Miami is definitely rising in prominence. I don't have any resources to post of the top of my head but it's emerging as a cornerstone of America.
 
Old 06-15-2012, 07:10 AM
 
Location: The Left Toast
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Originally Posted by TheFlats View Post
1A: NYC
1B: LA

2A: DMV, Chicago, Bay Area
2B: Philly, Boston, Houston
2C: Dallas, Atlanta, Detroit, Miami

3A: Twin Cities, Seattle, Denver, San Diego, Phoenix
3B: Portland, Tampa/St. Pete, St. Louis, Pittsburgh, Cleveland
3C: Austin, Sacramento, Cincinnati, Orlando, KCMO, Charlotte

4A: Las Vegas, New Orleans, Indianapolis, Honolulu, Columbus
4B: Research Triangle, Oklahoma City, Louisville, Virginia Beach, Milwaukee, SLC
4C: Buffalo, Tuscon, Albuquerque, Omaha

I know I'm missing a ton the further below Tier 3A I go...fix/fill in as you wish.
How'd you decide which cities were A's & B's ?
 
Old 06-15-2012, 02:46 PM
 
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Originally Posted by MrIndependent View Post
In order of importance from left to right.

a + if that city's prominence is rising, a - if it's decreasing, and an = if it is staying the same.


Tier 1a: NYC =
Tier 1b: LA =, Chicago =, DC =, San Fran =
Tier 2: Houston ++, ATL +, Boston =, Miami =, Dallas +, Philly -
Tier 3a: Seattle =, Minneapolis +
Tier 3b: Denver +, Charlotte +, San Diego =, Pittsburgh +, Detroit --, St. Louis -, Cleveland -, Phoenix +
Tier 4: San Antonio =, Cinncinati =, Kansas City +, Indianapolis +, Portland +, Austin ++, Columbus +
Tier 5: Las Vegas =, Tampa =, Orlando =, Milwaukee =, Nashville +, Baltimore -, New Orleans =
Non Tiered (worthwhile mentions): Richmond, Sacramento, Raleigh, Memphis,

Tier 1a is in a league of its own.
Tier 1b have significant global recognition and immense stature domestically.
Tier 2 are very important nationally, but have less impact globally.
Tier 3a and 3b have regional importance domestically, with limited impact globally.
Tier 4 are important cities within their states and then have limited importance regionally.
Tier 5 includes oddball major tourist spots and less significant domestic cities.
I think this is a pretty good list.

I might put LA in its own tier, since it's basically twice the size and has a much larger economy than Chicago, DC and SF.

I may also move Detroit up one tier. It has a bigger population than both Seattle and MSP, and its economy is bigger than MSP (though smaller than Seattle).
 
Old 06-15-2012, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Tier 1
New York
L.A
Chicago
DC
 
Old 06-15-2012, 07:20 PM
 
Location: NYC/D.C.
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Why do people keep putting LA with NYC. They may be similar in some ways(population and global recognition since they are the two largest cities in the u.s., and portrayed the most in media)but overall thats it. also, why do people keep putting LA ahead of Chicago? Though they have a big difference in population, Chicago is ranked with top cities like Shanghai, Tokyo, Seoul, etc. in the rankings of the top financial centers of the world(LA was not even listed). Also, Chicago is ranked right next to LA in the list for the top ten global cities. However LA does make up for this by having a larger population, GPD, and for being known worldwide in the media.

This being said, I would without a doubt put them together. Also dc should be ranked with these cities for obvious reasons.


Other than that, nice responses guys.
 
Old 06-15-2012, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia,New Jersey, NYC!
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tier 1 is new york
 
Old 06-15-2012, 09:25 PM
 
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Originally Posted by TheFlats View Post
1A: NYC
1B: LA

2A: DMV, Chicago, Bay Area
2B: Philly, Boston, Houston
2C: Dallas, Atlanta, Detroit, Miami

3A: Twin Cities, Seattle, Denver, San Diego, Phoenix
3B: Portland, Tampa/St. Pete, St. Louis, Pittsburgh, Cleveland
3C: Austin, Sacramento, Cincinnati, Orlando, KCMO, Charlotte

4A: Las Vegas, New Orleans, Indianapolis, Honolulu, Columbus
4B: Research Triangle, Oklahoma City, Louisville, Virginia Beach, Milwaukee, SLC
4C: Buffalo, Tuscon, Albuquerque, Omaha

I know I'm missing a ton the further below Tier 3A I go...fix/fill in as you wish.
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How'd you decide which cities were A's & B's ?
Well these things are subjective in nature, so while I tried to remove personal bias I didn't have super objective criteria. In my mind I weighted population and GMP heavily, then factored in urbanity, economy, (inter)national reputation. Weather I under-weighted because that's filled with personal bias.

I think NYC and LA need no explanation. 2A exists because of Chicago's urbanity and financial strength, the Bay's tech and livability strength, and DMV because of the political role it plays.

I almost stopped 2B after Boston/Philly but I think Houston belongs there. Miami is solidly 2C whereas Dallas and Atlanta are reaching for 2B and Detroit is fighting to stay 2C.

3A is pretty well segregated by GMP with the others, although I feel Seattle can reach 2C in a decade.
3B and 3C were tough in places. I feel Tampa and Charlotte can easily be switched. Portland is solid at this level but will move up slow, and St. Louis and Pittsburgh seem to be shaking off rust belt weariness.

4A cities were mid size metros with a strength like tourism/entertainment or recognition beyond a regional level. I could see Oklahoma City being 4A instead of B, although all the 4B's I listed are steady or improving. I also know I left out metros like San Antonia, Memphis, Nashville, Jax so my bad citizens of those cities...
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