US City Tiers:

[pgm123]

Originally Posted by Davis Street

The Census uses commuting patterns for their metropolitan determinations. Relative distance is completely irrelevent.

I'm surprised you think Trenton wouldn't be part of the NYC area, since Trenton is part of Mercer County, which is overwhelmingly part of the NYC commuter belt, not the Philly commuter belt.

The Princeton Station, easily the busiest commuter rail station in Mercer County, has one of the highest Manhattan-bound boardings in the entire metropolitan area. It doesn't even have trains to Philly.

Both North Jersey and Central Jersey are more tied to NYC, and South Jersey is more tied to Philly. This is reflected in the commuting numbers. And much (most?) of Mercer County is closer to NYC than to Philly anyways.

I said specifically that Trenton would be the only part of Mercer county that would fall in Philadelphia's domain. Trenton is the end of SEPTA. Before 2000, Trenton was part of the Philadelphia area on the census. It's still part of the Philadelphia media market. That's why I wouldn't consider Trenton as necessarily part of the New York Area (it's the border, in my mind).

[Summersm343]

Originally Posted by Davis Street

The Census uses commuting patterns for their metropolitan determinations. Relative distance is completely irrelevent.

I'm surprised you think Trenton wouldn't be part of the NYC area, since Trenton is part of Mercer County, which is overwhelmingly part of the NYC commuter belt, not the Philly commuter belt.

The Princeton Station, easily the busiest commuter rail station in Mercer County, has one of the highest Manhattan-bound boardings in the entire metropolitan area. It doesn't even have trains to Philly.

Both North Jersey and Central Jersey are more tied to NYC, and South Jersey is more tied to Philly. This is reflected in the commuting numbers. And much (most?) of Mercer County is closer to NYC than to Philly anyways.

Actually Mercer county is 15 minutes outside of the Northeastern Border of Philadelphia and about 45 minutes MINIMUM from the closest border of New York City. Also... Mercer County was a part of the PHILLY metro until 2000... it is still a part of the Philly Media Market and there are 2 Philly radio stations based in Trenton. Trenton and Mercer County are 80% associated with Philadelphia. SEPTA (Philadelphia's transportation) serves the Southern boundaries of Mercer County. Also Amtrak has trains that run between Trenton and Philly and NJ Transit has trains that run from Trenton to Camden and Philly.

In 2000, three counties in New Jersey (Mercer County, Atlantic County, and Cape County) were all removed from the Philly metro when they should be a part of the Philly metro. These counties are extremely more depending on Philadelphia than they are a part of New York.

[tawfiqmp]

Originally Posted by Davis Street

I cited BSA data, and other posters confirmed the same data.

Your reponse to the govt. data is "Gee, the poster must be a troll".

Obviously you have no argument or common sense.

lol... You've been trolling around for a while now, not only on this forum but in the Chicago one too. You don't have to say anything though, most of us that have seen you post know that.

[kgartm1185]

Tier 1
New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, Washington, DC
Tier 2
Atlanta, Houston, Dallas, Philadelphia, Miami, Boston, Detroit
Tier 3
Seattle, Portland, Phoenix, San Francisco, San Diego, Minneapolis, Tampa, Denver, Baltimore
Tier 4
St. Louis, Charlotte, Las Vegas, Cleveland, San Antonio, Cincinnati, Kansas City, Orlando, Indianapolis
Tier 5
Columbus, Jacksonville, Memphis, Nashville, Salt Lake City, Louisville, Richmond, New Orleans, Raleigh, Birmingham, Tulsa, Albany, Richmond
Tier 6
Columbia, Charleston, Greenville, Knoxville, Wichita, Little Rock, Harrisburg, Winston-Salem, Greensboro

[OleSchoolFool]

nyc is in its own tier, nothing is close
i dont even like nyc, but thats the truth

[MilehiDenver]

"Tier 1
New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, Washington, DC
Tier 2
Atlanta, Houston, Dallas, Philadelphia, Miami, Boston, Detroit
Tier 3
Seattle, Portland, Phoenix, San Francisco, San Diego, Minneapolis, Tampa, Denver, Baltimore, Richmond
Tier 4
St. Louis, Charlotte, Las Vegas, Cleveland, San Antonio, Cincinnati, Kansas City, Orlando, Indianapolis
Tier 5
Columbus, Jacksonville, Memphis, Nashville, Salt Lake City, Louisville, Richmond, New Orleans, Raleigh, Birmingham, Tulsa, Albany
Tier 6
Columbia, Charleston, Greenville, Knoxville, Wichita, Little Rock, Harrisburg, Winston-Salem, Greensboro"



Richmond tier 3????? Based on what?

[Toure]

NYC is its own tier. LOL! In your opinion it may not be your favorite city, but its the only US city that can take on stat for stat any city in the world.

[OleSchoolFool]

Originally Posted by Toure

NYC is its own tier. LOL! In your opinion it may not be your favorite city, but its the only US city that can take on stat for stat any city in the world.

well dats wat i said, and its not bout stats, its jus too big to be in a same tier with anyth

[Toure]

Originally Posted by OleSchoolFool

well dats wat i said, and its not bout stats, its jus too big to be in a same tier with anyth

That too.

[kgartm1185]

Originally Posted by MilehiDenver

"Tier 1
New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, Washington, DC
Tier 2
Atlanta, Houston, Dallas, Philadelphia, Miami, Boston, Detroit
Tier 3
Seattle, Portland, Phoenix, San Francisco, San Diego, Minneapolis, Tampa, Denver, Baltimore, Richmond
Tier 4
St. Louis, Charlotte, Las Vegas, Cleveland, San Antonio, Cincinnati, Kansas City, Orlando, Indianapolis
Tier 5
Columbus, Jacksonville, Memphis, Nashville, Salt Lake City, Louisville, Richmond, New Orleans, Raleigh, Birmingham, Tulsa, Albany
Tier 6
Columbia, Charleston, Greenville, Knoxville, Wichita, Little Rock, Harrisburg, Winston-Salem, Greensboro"



Richmond tier 3????? Based on what?

I actually meant to put it in tier 5.