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LA is vast, spread out, and has massive city limits too.
But within the sprawling beast of the city are pockets of very walkable areas that resemble slivers of very dense urban cities. Very few parts of Houston are like this.
Calling LA overall a "dense urban city" is a bit of an overstatement as it falls way behind in those regards to other big cities in the US (particularly New York, Boston, Chicago, Philly, DC, San Francisco and even Miami).
Rather, I'd say LA is FAR more dense and urban than Houston.
You must mean the core. Places like Miami and DC neighborhoods don't maintain density LA does
No city (minus NY) maintains density the way Los Angeles does, including Chicago. Miami doesn't come close.
20,000 ppsm census tracts
Los Angeles: 1.9 million residents
Chicago 1.1 million
That's an extremely broad statement with the word "maintain". Many people would disagree. Perhaps, if what you're saying is true, LA has more people living in it's dense places than SF and Chicago. However, that is not surprising because LA is bigger than both. Overall, LA is not as dense as other US cities. Not even Long Beach.
Lets keep this to Houston vs. LA only anyway. I shouldn't have brought that statement about other cities up anyway, knew it would get many fellow SoCal people on here worked up.
[quote=Nafster;33156470]That's an extremely broad statement with the word "maintain". Many people would disagree. Perhaps, if what you're saying is true, LA has more people living in it's dense places than SF and Chicago. However, that is not surprising because LA is bigger than both. Overall, LA is not as dense as other US cities. Not even Long Beach.
Lets keep this to Houston vs. LA only anyway. I shouldn't have brought that statement about other cities up anyway, knew it would get many fellow SoCal people on here worked up.[/quote]
No, I mean the entire city overall (and only the cities).
Greater LA is actually denser than the city of Los Angeles.
The metropolitan area of LA is the densest in the nation.
LA has much larger boundaries than the cities you listed and has a mountain range bisecting it, that's why. If you cropped it down to Miami's size (35 sq miles), LA would have a density well over 20,000 ppsm. It's built density compares to Philly, strip malls and all. With the great proliferation of mixed-use projects sprouting all over the city, it will be even more built out by decade' end.
Really? The way I hear it, Miami isn't that walkable at all outside of a few places. It has more walkable areas than LA Metro?
That's not what I've heard.
This is the problem with LA on this board (and on this board only). People need to make up their mind when we talk about LA. Are we talking about LA metro or LA city? The two are not the same! (Though many would argue that it lacks clear differences between the city limits).
Everything besides the comment I made previously specifically talking about LA metro has been strictly about the CITY of LA.
The actual city of Miami is denser than the actual city of LA. And more walkable.
The actual city of LA is far more dense and walkable than the actual city of Houston (and for that matter, any city in the West and South except SF and Miami).
Walkscore is a great source to look for this info.
This is the problem with LA on this board (and on this board only). People need to make up their mind when we talk about LA. Are we talking about LA metro or LA city? The two are not the same! (Though many would argue that it lacks clear differences between the city limits).
Everything besides the comment I made previously specifically talking about LA metro has been strictly about the CITY of LA.
The actual city of Miami is denser than the actual city of LA. And more walkable.
The actual city of LA is far more dense and walkable than the actual city of Houston (and for that matter, any city in the West and South except SF and Miami).
Walkscore is a great source to look for this info.
Miami is 35 sq miles. There's no way to logically compare it to a city over 470 sq miles. It would like comparing West Hollywood (2 sq miles, 18,000+ ppsm) to Miami.
Look at the number of residents who live in +90, +85, +80 neighborhoods in LA and MIA. It settles very quickly which is the more walkable city (WeHo scores an 89 btw).
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