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Old 07-16-2013, 10:24 PM
 
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I have lived in the New York City metropolitan area for most of my life, and as I am about to finish college (also in New York), I am considering I may not want to live the rest of my life there. I love New York's liberal culture and artistic/cultural significance and I really appreciate the new developments in Brooklyn. However, I have become repulsed upon realizing how rude New Yorkers are in comparison to other cities, and see little use in dealing with the pretensions and rat-race elements of New York life. The values that people seem to appreciate in the city also do not seem conducive for bringing up children (although G-d-willing that is a ways away).

I am considering living in another city after graduation. One that is pretty big, with tolerant, liberal people and a decent-sized Jewish community. The presence of a significant artistic or university population would be a huge plus, as would be one committed to active living (biking, hiking) or sustainability. I would like to also be in a place where there are good values and a general commitment to being genuine as opposed to how much money you make, etc.

Assuming I was able to live in another city, which one is the best out of
-Chicago
-Portland (Oregon)
-Austin
-Seattle
- Minneapolis
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Old 07-16-2013, 10:37 PM
 
Location: PNW
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Wow you really picked a list of cities that all include these values! Seattle offers everything on your list as well offering an urban and cosmopolitan feel that you may miss in New York. Obviously not as big or dense put definitely gives off the biggest city feel out of all these (Except Chicago). We have a very creative and innovative population. We offer all the Hiking and biking you need. Beautiful summers (Best in the country!) Water activities, entertainment and very diverse liberal population.
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Old 07-16-2013, 11:36 PM
 
Location: Taipei
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Yeah that seems to be a pretty strong list for you. My only wonder is whether Austin is a big enough city for you. It's a great place and offers so much for its size, but considering you've lived your whole life in NYC and say you want one that is pretty big, I hesitate on recommending Austin. Portland, likewise, is really phenomenal for its size (and larger than Austin) but once again don't know if it's big enough for you.

I think noticeably absent from this list is San Francisco, and you might also want to consider Denver since it hits on a number of your factors as well.

Oh, and I guess to actually answer your question of which is best from that list, I'd say Chicago is the obvious answer for a "NYC minus the attitude" equation. It's gonna be the closest to a NYC environment while being friendlier, cleaner, cheaper, and more laid back.
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Old 07-17-2013, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX and wherever planes fly
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This is a tough one all those cities are great! Seattle and Chicago I'd say match up best. And as the poster above mentioned San Francisco would be a great contender.
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Old 07-17-2013, 03:59 PM
 
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Well, it really depends on what size city you want. Chicago is more comparable to New York as a huge, dense city than the other choices, but the Midwestern location and weather are drawbacks. I'd probably rank them Chicago, Seattle, Portland, Minneapolis, Austin.
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Old 07-17-2013, 04:10 PM
 
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However, I have become repulsed upon realizing how rude New Yorkers are in comparison to other cities, and see little use in dealing with the pretensions and rat-race elements of New York life. The values that people seem to appreciate in the city also do not seem conducive for bringing up children (although G-d-willing that is a ways away).
You will probably find out later on that what you considered to be 'rude' is actually 'straightforward' and 'open'. Don't confuse 'friendly' with 'polite' if/when you move somewhere else. I personally miss New York and think that's one of the few places where I'd like to raise my child. No place is perfect as we all learn sooner or later.
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Old 07-17-2013, 05:24 PM
 
Location: New York
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Chicago I would say is your first choice, then Seattle.

Chicago will provide you with everything you want, just less extreme. Trimmed fat if you will.
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Old 07-17-2013, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Chicago(Northside)
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Chicago HANDS DOWN is your best choice, they have the largest Jewish population out of any of the cities.
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Old 07-18-2013, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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Chicago HANDS DOWN is your best choice, they have the largest Jewish population out of any of the cities.
Right, and in my experience the only places most native New Yorkers end up moving and being happy down the road are Chicago and San Fran.
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Old 07-18-2013, 03:25 PM
 
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Chicago, SF or Seattle is what I'd recommend if you want a big city.
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