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View Poll Results: Which city is better?
Portland (Oregon) 8 23.53%
Toronto 26 76.47%
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Old 08-07-2013, 11:25 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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GDP is the best way of determining wealth from city to city in america. Economic output, per capita, and cost of living usually coordinates well in comparing the wealthier and economically stronger city. I know that doesn't work well world wide though Dubai's GDP is 82 billion, comparable with New Orleans, But we all know the city is full of the extremely rich (and poor) that invest into the city keeping it strong.
Which is really why I don't really look at Canadian/American GDP contests that seriously.. Even though there are a lot of similarities between the two countries.. there are still very distinct differences..
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Old 08-07-2013, 11:52 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Washington
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Which is really why I don't really look at Canadian/American GDP contests that seriously.. Even though there are a lot of similarities between the two countries.. there are still very distinct differences..
I would argue that though. Canadian and US cities function by the same principles mostly. I think there is more government investment into cities then in US cities. That helps improve your education and keep your cities relatively cleaner. If we talking about economic output then it is fair to Compare US and Canadian cities by GDP. Big Business doesn't change between US and Canada!
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Old 08-08-2013, 12:04 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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seems like you purposely got a smaller city just so Toronto could win...
I actually did this just for fun. But your tone seems to be diminishing Toronto...I think it could beat many other large cities throughout the world, particularly in diversity and safety.
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Old 08-08-2013, 10:03 AM
 
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GDP is the best way of determining wealth from city to city in america. Economic output, per capita, and cost of living usually coordinates well in comparing the wealthier and economically stronger city. I know that doesn't work well world wide though Dubai's GDP is 82 billion, comparable with New Orleans, But we all know the city is full of the extremely rich (and poor) that invest into the city keeping it strong.
I personally don't get why all these GDP stats are being thrown around on these city vs city threads.
If city X has a bigger GDP then city Y ...doesn't make me think it's better or makes me like it better,
gee city X has $600 billion GDP wow I'm starting to love city X now that I know it has $600 billion GDP,
when thought it only had $300 billion GDP I didn't like it so much

Anyway, call me nuts but I prefer Albuquerque over Portland ...never mind Toronto,
imo they're not in the same ball park
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Old 08-08-2013, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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I would argue that though. Canadian and US cities function by the same principles mostly. I think there is more government investment into cities then in US cities. That helps improve your education and keep your cities relatively cleaner. If we talking about economic output then it is fair to Compare US and Canadian cities by GDP. Big Business doesn't change between US and Canada!
We don't pay for healthcare like you do and a number of other social services that are available in Canada but not in the U.S.. Therefore these models are different and definitely makes a difference when speaking of GDP because they spillover into industry. Canada is somewhere between Europe and the U.S in terms of socialism and capitalism - but we aren't as capitalistic as the U.S is so to make direct comparisons Is not really valid as far as i'm concerned. There are similarities to the U.S but also differences.

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Old 08-08-2013, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
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I'm speaking more to the fact that Canadians don't pay for a lot of social services that Americans pay for.. this cuts into the bottom line - namely healthcare. This area alone is HUGE.
To be fair and OT, this is not on the OP's list of criteria.

Which city do you prefer? Here are the criteria
Scenery
Weather
Culture
People
Safety
Public transportation
Walkability
Food
Nightlife
Diversity

But ironically, my sister who lives in Toronto, recently had to help me, who lives in Portland, finance a huge drug bill for a life saving drug that cost me thousands but in Toronto would have cost her far less had she been able to purchase it there. It made me think of this thread.

Regarding all the OP's criteria, Toronto is a large city. Portland is a tiny one in comparison. I have lived in Portland for a long time and visited Toronto many times. Since the OP asked which do I prefer, so given the choice, I prefer Toronto for all these things including the socialized medicine factor.

I am not saying one city is better than the other. I am just saying that my preference of one city over the other is based on my familiarity with both.
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Old 08-08-2013, 07:01 PM
 
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Pretty different places I must say...why not compare with Vancouver BC?
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Old 08-08-2013, 07:44 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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To be fair and OT, this is not on the OP's list of criteria.

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Fair enough to the OP - just sayin seems GDP comparisons are an American obsession in this forum - thanks for proving Portland and Oregon as not being that way..

I agree with you sentiments though. Sure Toronto is going to beat Portland in an extensive laundry list... its much bigger and is a world city by most accounts. That doesn't mean however that some and maybe even many wouldn't prefer living in a more compact and manageable city - which Portland is.
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Old 08-08-2013, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Pretty different places I must say...why not compare with Vancouver BC?
There have already been threads comparing Toronto and Vancouver...I don't know of any comparing Toronto with Portland.
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Old 08-08-2013, 09:22 PM
 
Location: London, UK
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Scenery: Portland
Weather: Portland
Culture: Toronto
People: Tie. People are people everywhere, some sh1tty some not.
Safety: Tie
Public transportation: Toronto
Walkability: Toronto
Food: Ethnic: Toronto; High end dining: Toronto; Locally inspired food: Portland
Nightlife: Toronto
Diversity: Toronto

I visited Portland for the first time a couple years back, impressive little city. Awesome chef driven food scene also the street food scene is insane there, might be the best in the country. Overall though if I was going to live somewhere I most likely would choose Toronto.
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