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That's for people who care about college sports though. And I would hope most of those in B-10 schools would know about UofC, I would be surprised if they didn't.
On top of that weren't you talking about globally? Since when did college sports become such a big factor in recognition to other countries?! If that were the case wouldn't schools like Ohio State, Alabama and Florida be more well known than Berkley? Per your logic....
As you say yourself, irrelevancy, sports in this case is totally irrelevant, other countries aren't following college sports.
I don't know what you're arguing here. Obviously within the U.S. sports will have a greater weight than outside the U.S.
In any case, Illinois and Northwestern are well known schools, and better known to the common man than UofC.
Midwesterners always like to argue the dumbest things. The mentality is just too frivolous and the culture is partially to blame.
Several pages arguing U of Chicago (a good school) is on par with Ivy. Maybe the lower end Ivy like Dartmouth or Cornell, but not Harvard/Yale/Princeton.
At the same time, the argument only goes as far as it does because of the frivolous mentality that is so common in the midwest.
Midwesterners always like to argue the dumbest things. The mentality is just too frivolous and the culture is partially to blame.
Several pages arguing U of Chicago (a good school) is on par with Ivy. Maybe the lower end Ivy like Dartmouth or Cornell, but not Harvard/Yale/Princeton.
At the same time, the argument only goes as far as it does because of the frivolous mentality that is so common in the midwest.
But who is saying UofC is equivalent to Harvard, Yale or Princeton?!
That's also a pretty arrogant and ignorant statement to generalize a group compromised of millions of people like that.
No one is suggesting that UofC is more well known than Havard, but it certainly is just as well known if not more known than Dartmouth, Cornell, Brown, etc.
Next time read correctly, bruto.
It's not as well known as those either. You're arguing it's as well known as the lower-end Ivies, when it is not. The lower-end Ivies are still Ivy League.
Academically, it is comparable to those schools, but it's not as well known. Anyone hears U of Chicago and probably confuses it with UIC (not UIUC).
It's not as well known as those either. You're arguing it's as well known as the lower-end Ivies, when it is not. The lower-end Ivies are still Ivy League.
Academically, it is comparable to those schools, but it's not as well known. Anyone hears U of Chicago and probably confuses it with UIC (not UIUC).
But how many people around the globe know that Brown, Dartmouth and Cornell are Ivy League?
People know of the Ivy League because of Harvard, Princeton and Yale, not the other way around. Harvard, Yale and Princeton weren't made famous because they were part of the Ivy League it was the reverse that happened, they made "Ivy League" the prominent name because they are part of it.
So when you ask most people in other countries "Can you name me the Ivy League schools?" They will say Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Columbia, but I am pretty positive that most don't know that Dartmouth, Brown or Cornell are also part of it and wouldn't name them. And that is my whole point. That they are Ivy League is moot point in recognition globally, because most people around the world (and even in this country) only know of a few Ivy League schools, the top ones.
To further my point, there are other schools that are on par with Brown, Cornell and Dartmouth but are not Ivy League but are more renown than them.
So this whole argument that because a school is Ivy League then it is more well known automatically is silly. It certainly helps, but at the end of the day there are only 2-4 schools of the IL that people around the globe really know about. It's just that the top ones in the IL are the most well known and have brought prominence to that name.
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