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View Poll Results: Which is the overall best: The Big Apple or San Francisco?
New York City 78 71.56%
San Francisco 31 28.44%
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Old 12-18-2013, 01:51 AM
 
Location: Baghdad by the Bay (San Francisco, California)
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Bayarrhea

When a group of San Franciscans get together to congratulate themselves on how proud they are to live in the best place on Earth. Bayarrhea often occurs when people need reassurance of their decision to live in the Bay Area, as most people (at least before the Internet boom) did not move there for work, but rather just because of the appealing lifestyle.

Urban Dictionary: Bayarrhea
This is posted a lot, but I'm confused--is it meant to somehow demean "the appealing lifestyle?" I'm one who moved, not for work, but because of the appealing lifestyle, and have found it to exceed my expectations.

 
Old 12-18-2013, 06:05 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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San Fran is great, it's the people of the Bay Area that suck.
 
Old 12-18-2013, 06:24 AM
 
Location: Austell, Georgia
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Wow someone has their homer hat on too tight and I think it is effecting his brain.

NYC>The Bay by a landslide. SF is not even in the same league.
 
Old 12-18-2013, 06:43 AM
 
Location: So California
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This is posted a lot, but I'm confused--is it meant to somehow demean "the appealing lifestyle?" I'm one who moved, not for work, but because of the appealing lifestyle, and have found it to exceed my expectations.
That's the key. As has been stated time and time again, SF is a different animal than NYC. These guys are so sensitive to all things ny that they cannot for a second understand that SF doesn't have to be Gotham to be great. Likewise it is possible for other cities to get votes vs NYC. Not everybody wants to live in either city but they both certainly have their own following. In context to this thread it doesn't matter that NYC is older bigger richer poorer denser or more important on a world stage those are things everyone knows, but that doesn't mean it's a better city for all people. There's a handful of great North American cities and both are in that club.
 
Old 12-18-2013, 07:36 AM
 
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Actually it doesnt hun.

Individuals Worth $30 Millon+, 2013
Top 10 Cities
1 New York 8,025
2 London 6,360
3 Tokyo 6,015
4 Los Angeles 4,945
5 San Francisco 4,840
6 Osaka 3,300
7 Paris 3,195
8 Hong Kong 3,180
9 Mexico City 2,695
10 Washington DC 2,675

Other cities
Chicago 2,665
Houston 2,490
Beijing 2,320
Dallas 2,240
Mumbai 2,135
Zurich 1,940
Munich 1,740
Delhi 1,980
Geneva 1,460
Dusseldorf 1,420
Shanghai 1,410
Hamburg 1,380
Singapore 1,355
Frankfurt 1,310
Rome 1,194
Atlanta 1,135
Madrid 1,135
Shenzhen 1,085
Seattle 1,070
Boston 995
Guangzhou 980
Banglaore 750

Some countries
Canada 4,980
Brazil 4,015
Australia 3,055
Mexico 3,365
Saudi Arabia 1,360
Russia 1,180
United Arab Emirates 1,050
South Africa 775

http://wuwr.wealthx.com/Wealth-X%20a...ort%202013.pdf

http://www.thinkadvisor.com/2013/10/...uper-rich-2013

So what this means is, IF NEW YORK HAD THE SAME PROPORTION OF ULTRA HIGH NET WORTH INDIVIDUALS AS SF, THERE WOULD BE 12,000+ SUCH PERSONS INSTEAD OF 8,000.




Yes, and on average, the SF family is wealthier than the average NYC family and its not close.
I'm really not sure how this got into the topic of which city is richer, because that's not what I posted on the original question?
 
Old 12-18-2013, 07:49 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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This is posted a lot, but I'm confused--is it meant to somehow demean "the appealing lifestyle?" I'm one who moved, not for work, but because of the appealing lifestyle, and have found it to exceed my expectations.
None of them will admit that 'bigger' is not the same thing as 'better'.

New York is NOT richer than the Bay Area as far as per capita income, per capita gdp, average household income, average family income, median household income, median family income, median earnings, or any other quantitative income measure I could find and those are indisputable facts.

SF>NY as far as affluence and has been going back as far as bea.gov data will allow.

But instead of moving on to other criteria notice these embarrassing responses, post after post by these people talking about leagues, tiers, elites and exclusive clubs---its hilarious.

It doesnt matter how many tacky jetsetters NYC has SF is still more affluent.

It doesnt matter how many highrises NYC has, SF still has a stronger economy.

It doesnt matter how much bigger NYC is, SF still BEATS it in many travel surveys like this:
America's Favorite Cities 2012 - City Comparison - New York City vs San Francisco | Travel + Leisure

And so forth. Its like they are incapable of separating perception from reality.
 
Old 12-18-2013, 07:56 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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I'm really not sure how this got into the topic of which city is richer, because that's not what I posted on the original question?
So you dont discriminate against billionaire stats by Mr Don Draper but take issue with my stat of people in the 30M+ range?

Haha that's 'rich'.
 
Old 12-18-2013, 08:04 AM
 
Location: The City
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Another dicusion the has gone to discussing the differences among .001% of populations
 
Old 12-18-2013, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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That's the key. As has been stated time and time again, SF is a different animal than NYC. These guys are so sensitive to all things ny that they cannot for a second understand that SF doesn't have to be Gotham to be great. Likewise it is possible for other cities to get votes vs NYC.
Yup. It all boils down to ignorance.

As far as being 'Gotham', the term 'Manhattanization' was coined in SF to scare locals into passing building codes that made sure we stayed as UNManhattanlike as possible.
 
Old 12-18-2013, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Milky Way Galaxy
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I prefer being richer than all of them.
LOL, you seem so proud of having more income in the SF that you post it around all over the place. If it meant so much to people they so much to people they would be living in somewhere like suburban Charlotte not overly expensive San Francisco. Since you like stats so much here is some:


Charlotte (city) QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau
San Francisco County QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau

Cost of Living comparison calculator

San Francisco should be making $91,655.35 after COL is adjusted but pis poor SF only makes $72,947. Aww so 3rd world San Francisco is not the richest city in the world like you go on and even some suburban town in the east coast manages to beat it

In all seriousness, neither NYC or any of the top teir cities in the world harp on about it's salary or cost of living to your average Joe. If it's that important to you that would live somewhere of inferior quality then bother coming here, nobody wants you, those cities have plenty of people already. What those cities do have however is plenty of upper elite rich way more so that SF can dream of but that's a different discussion.

I know saying all this to you is a waste of time and probably even a 5 year old would understand this better but still the amount of BS you keep on posting, if only one could get banned here for simpleminded posting....

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