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Old 04-21-2014, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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But all the gambling, partying, etc..that happens on The Strip also happens at the numerous casino's and bars in Downtown Vegas.
And partying and drinking also happens in Midtown Manhattan. But Midtown is also home to big companies, art galleries, institutions, city offices, etc. If "activity" were the only metric for a downtown, then Miami Beach would be a downtown.

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It's not really as central to the metro area as The Strip and I doubt it has as large of a share of employment either.
Miami Beach is more central to the metro area than Buckhead is. The hospitality industry is a major employer in Miami Beach (just as it is on the LV Strip). And moreover, Miami Beach has a population of nearly 90,000, which blows the strip away. If you're open to the idea of multiple downtowns, then I don't see why Miami Beach wouldn't fit the bill. It's also more three dimensional and pedestrian centric than the LV Strip.
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Old 04-21-2014, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Prince George's County, Maryland
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Like I said, since our definition of "downtown" has now expanded, I'm putting Miami on top of the list. It's the only downtown in America where you can grind on some hump in a clear, blueish/green ocean.
True. Glad to know that South Beach is the only part of the Miami area were you can party every single member of the Latin diaspora
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Old 04-21-2014, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Prince George's County, Maryland
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Downtown Atlantic Ocean is the worst.

It's like you're under ****in water bro.
Atlantic City...?
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Old 04-21-2014, 04:18 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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And partying and drinking also happens in Midtown Manhattan. But Midtown is also home to big companies, art galleries, institutions, city offices, etc. If "activity" were the only metric for a downtown, then Miami Beach would be a downtown.
Okay?
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Miami Beach is more central to the metro area than Buckhead is. The hospitality industry is a major employer in Miami Beach (just as it is on the LV Strip). And moreover, Miami Beach has a population of nearly 90,000, which blows the strip away. If you're open to the idea of multiple downtowns, then I don't see why Miami Beach wouldn't fit the bill. It's also more three dimensional and pedestrian centric than the LV Strip.
I don't really have an issue with the OP or others want to consider it one and I've stated that multiple times. So I'm not sure what exactly you're trying to convince me of.
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Old 04-21-2014, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Main center of activity for the region, heaviest pedestrian activity, vibrancy, lots of entertainment, dining, etc.. Was that really not obvious to you?
Miami Beach has pretty much all of that. It probably doesn't have as much employment, but most tourists to "Miami" are really going to Miami Beach, and much of the local economy is built around catering to those people.

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Let me guess " what about civic life, jails, blah blah blah" lol
Right. Because every downtown in America lacks museums, a city hall, office buildings, a courthouse, and other types of cultural institutions, right? What they all have, however, is a ton of gambling and binge drinking.
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Old 04-21-2014, 04:18 PM
 
Location: The City
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TDmYKpy8jI

AC is pretty crazy ll hours of the night actually can pretty seedy too though

these are resort/vacation towns though

Playa Del Carmen or Cancun are crazy all hour of the day too - not ure I totally see how these compare to DTs per se


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2h2aK6jG7Lw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yzYYDknH8I
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Old 04-21-2014, 04:20 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Miami Beach has pretty much all of that. It probably doesn't have as much employment, but most tourists to "Miami" are really going to Miami Beach, and much of the local economy is built around catering to those people.
That's wonderful! I love SOBE!
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Right. Because every downtown in America lacks museums, a city hall, office buildings, a courthouse, and other types of cultural institutions, right? What they all have, however, is a ton of gambling and binge drinking.
What are you even talking about at this point? I already said you clearly have a more narrow definition of what constitutes a downtown than myself and some others.
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Old 04-21-2014, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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AC is pretty crazy ll hours of the night actually can pretty seedy too though

these are resort/vacation towns though

Playa Del Carmen or Cancun are crazy all hour of the day too - not ure I totally see how these compare to DTs per se
That's a "downtown" too.

Vibrancy? Check.

Binge drinking? Check.

Tons of hotel and casino employment? Check.

Pedestrian traffic? Check.

Pool parties? Check.

These are the common threads that run through all great downtowns in America.
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Old 04-21-2014, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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What are you even talking about at this point? I already said you clearly have a more narrow definition of what constitutes a downtown than myself and some others.
Yes, your definition is so broad that it excludes all of the things that virtually every single downtown in America has....
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Old 04-21-2014, 04:24 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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That's a "downtown" too.

Vibrancy? Check.

Binge drinking? Check.

Tons of hotel and casino employment? Check.

Pedestrian traffic? Check.

Pool parties? Check.

These are the common threads that run through all great downtowns in America.
nope, just the REALLY FUN ones lol
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