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I didn't say either one was prettier than the other (although I do think Illinois wins out because of the Mississippi River), I was just contesting her notion that it was ugly and dismal. And it was more than country roads, it was also the attitude of the people, the economic state of the towns. Everything just seemed more well-cared for in Illinois, and more run down in Indiana.
The attitude of the people? I know we've gone through your generalizations before, but I've never found the attitudes to much different towards bikers anywhere in the midwest. And by that, I mean anything from polite to hostile. But, the city data runs on people preaching their generalizations as stone cold fact.
Illinois does have some impressive country roads. This one appears to have been paved in something I have never seen anywhere else.
As far as the conditions of the towns, I have seen as many run down towns in Illinois as I have in Indiana. Rural towns have taken a hit recently, both states have them. Google Street view tells me Pana, Il is as depressing now as it was when I was last there. I assume it was an off decade. I am sure Pana is normally much more impressive. Beardstown, Il is another overly impressive town in Illinois. I can smell the maintenance from my own computer screen.
I didn't want to go here but... One of my friends teaches in Indiana. She has commented to me about how backwards and "red neck" the state is. She has students who have confederate flag paraphernalia. She was also called a "Jew bag" by one of her students when she revealed she's Jewish. I know these are just anecdotes, but they speak to my experience in Indiana, and others I've heard as well. Indiana is a backwards state.
I didn't want to go here but... One of my friends teaches in Indiana. She has commented to me about how backwards and "red neck" the state is. She has students who have confederate flag paraphernalia. She was also called a "Jew bag" by one of her students when she revealed she's Jewish. I know these are just anecdotes, but they speak to my experience in Indiana, and others I've heard as well. Indiana is a backwards state.
All this proves is your bike story is as much about your own personal bias than any existing hatred against you and your bike. I know many teachers in Indiana, some in Illinois. They all say thebsame sorts of things, most kids are great and some have challenges. I doubt a good teacher would call her kids backwards. Ive seen confederate flags in IL, IN, MI, and OH. It is not a mentality i understand, but I don't judge entire states by those goofballs.
I didn't want to go here but... One of my friends teaches in Indiana. She has commented to me about how backwards and "red neck" the state is. She has students who have confederate flag paraphernalia. She was also called a "Jew bag" by one of her students when she revealed she's Jewish. I know these are just anecdotes, but they speak to my experience in Indiana, and others I've heard as well. Indiana is a backwards state.
We get it, you hate Indiana. I live three miles away from Illinois so I spend a lot more time there than Indiana but, I like them both just fine. I guess Illinois gets the edge because of Chicago but, other than that they really aren't that different.
Why would anyone compare the roads? This is the Midwest, all the roads are awful.
]It wasn't an isolated incident[/b], it was a general attitude of the people I encountered. I stayed with people down there who were the most blatantly racist people I ever met. People in general just seemed really rude and backwards there. Sorry if you don't like it, but those are my feelings. You're free to disagree if you want.
You just said it was an isolated incident, which one is it? Although I think you are making these things up as you go (the Jewish story) to "strengthen" your points about Indiana being backwards.
I went to a small high school in south Indy and never heard any negative things about being Jewish in a very non-Jewish community. So your argument is invalid.
I could never live in Indiana. It's just too bland and boring. Plus, there'a a reason the KKK set up a shop there. It's a haven for rednecks and their ilk.
I could never live in Indiana. It's just too bland and boring. Plus, there'a a reason the KKK set up a shop there. It's a haven for rednecks and their ilk.
Southern Illinois just like Southern Indiana was a hotbed of Klan activity in the 1920s. Plainfield, Lexington as well as the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign all had well documented Klan activity. Recently New Lenox made news over Klan recruitment in the area. Chicago (a city I adore) will never win the title as the city of brotherly love.
Southern Illinois just like Southern Indiana was a hotbed of Klan activity in the 1920s. Plainfield, Lexington as well as the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign all had well documented Klan activity. Recently New Lenox made news over Klan recruitment in the area. Chicago (a city I adore) will never win the title as the city of brotherly love.
No need to throw girlish insults around because you don't like my opinion. You're a very immature boy.
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