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Old 03-25-2014, 09:49 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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I love to see Atlanta vs Miami talk, I love both cities, I think they are both great, both have their strong points, and are actually fairly even overall in my estimation, and it seems like they might develope into great rivals which I love to see.

As for the question at hand, I actually think most cities in the south are properly rated, but if pressed I'd say Most Overrated - Richmond, Most Underrated - New Orleans.

 
Old 03-25-2014, 10:15 PM
 
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I'm not getting the mentions of Richmond being overrated AT ALL. If anything, it's the exact opposite.
 
Old 03-25-2014, 10:18 PM
 
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Actually Miami was very well planned by Henry Flagler and it as based on a GRID street system which really is no different than say Manhattan or Chicago or San Francisco.

Of course Geography has plenty to do with it since the metro can't expand into the Everglades. In the 1970's the commissioners of Miami-Dade county passed a "Urban Development Boundary" line similar to what Portland has now and development stops at Highway US 27 / Krome Avenue.

Miami's density is due to it's rigid GRID street system.
Just because a city is planned on a grid system doesn't ensure that it will be dense. Indianapolis proves that.
 
Old 03-25-2014, 10:21 PM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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You still have Miami Beach, which Atlanta has no answer for, in terms of density and activity.
Separate city within the same metro.
 
Old 03-26-2014, 04:10 AM
 
Location: The Magnolia City
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Separate city within the same metro.
If Atlanta can use Decatur proper as an example of "urban, walkable Atlanta", I don't see why Miami Beach can't be considered. It's the most popular place in the urban area anyway.
 
Old 03-26-2014, 04:35 AM
 
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If Atlanta can use Decatur proper as an example of "urban, walkable Atlanta", I don't see why Miami Beach can't be considered. It's the most popular place in the urban area anyway.
Marietta, The Woodlands, Beverly Hills, Santa Monice, are always brought up in convos. But Miami Beach doesn't count as plus for Miami's urbanity? MB's only 5mins across the bridge.
 
Old 03-26-2014, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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If Atlanta can use Decatur proper as an example of "urban, walkable Atlanta", I don't see why Miami Beach can't be considered. It's the most popular place in the urban area anyway.
Decatur?Who mentions Decatur as Atlanta in the same breath as Candler Park,L5P,Atlantic Station,Buckhead etc..?Nobody.
People don't come to Atlanta to visit Decatur like the go to visit Miami Beach but less so than Miami itself.That was the point.The city of Miami is not particularly inviting.

Its not the City OF Atlanta.That is what was mentioned.Every city has many urban walkable areas.Nothing unique about that.
 
Old 03-26-2014, 11:33 AM
 
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Decatur?Who mentions Decatur as Atlanta in the same breath as Candler Park,L5P,Atlantic Station,Buckhead etc..?Nobody.
In terms of walkable, urban areas in the metro, downtown Decatur is mentioned often and rightfully so. It's not within city limits but it's well within the perimeter and has one of the best MARTA stations in the system. It deserves to be highlighted.
 
Old 03-26-2014, 12:09 PM
 
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If Atlanta can use Decatur proper as an example of "urban, walkable Atlanta", I don't see why Miami Beach can't be considered. It's the most popular place in the urban area anyway.
When was Decatur mentioned on the thread at all?
 
Old 03-26-2014, 03:41 PM
 
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When was Decatur mentioned on the thread at all?
I just think he was saying that it's fair game to use places within the metro area outside of the urban core to score points for urbanity and walkability. For Atlanta, that would include areas like downtown Decatur, the square in downtown Marietta, downtown Roswell, Vinings, etc.
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