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View Poll Results: More international/cosmpolitan
Chicago 81 42.41%
San Francisco 110 57.59%
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Old 05-12-2014, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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SF is probably the 3rd most cosmopolitan city after NYC and DC. I think it's more cosmopolitan than LA.
Oh please. This reeks of another SF native/lover bashing LA and not giving credit where it is due. Alonside NYC, LA is the most cosmopolitan city in the nation. While SF is certainly more cosmopolitan than Chicago, it has no chance against LA.
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Old 05-12-2014, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Prince George's County, Maryland
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Oh please. This reeks of another SF native/lover bashing LA and not giving credit where it is due. Alonside NYC, LA is the most cosmopolitan city in the nation. While SF is certainly more cosmopolitan than Chicago, it has no chance against LA.
I think I saw a statistic somewhere on this forum indicating that LA has more foreign languages spoken than SF. LA also looks better on the haute culture stuff as well such as theatre and museums.
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Old 05-12-2014, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Both coasts
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Oh please. This reeks of another SF native/lover bashing LA and not giving credit where it is due. Alonside NYC, LA is the most cosmopolitan city in the nation. While SF is certainly more cosmopolitan than Chicago, it has no chance against LA.
Well, SF is more refined (has more refined people) than LA, but LA has more people from all around the world.
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Old 05-12-2014, 11:27 AM
 
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just spent a week in Hong Kong...at the most elite of (many many Hong Kong) malls, the biggest expat restaurant, loaded with global bankers, is a joint named Dan Ryan's...which is run by a company called Windy City International. They also have branches in Taiwan and Singapore

Windy City International Limited


And at the International Finance Centre, there is another Chicago food export... International Map | Garrett Popcorn Shops

and pretty much all over the city was that Chicago institution, McDonald's.

Didn't notice anyplace hawking San Francisco food/culture...think the locals here see SF as a colony.
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Old 05-13-2014, 11:15 AM
 
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just spent a week in Hong Kong...at the most elite of (many many Hong Kong) malls, the biggest expat restaurant, loaded with global bankers, is a joint named Dan Ryan's...which is run by a company called Windy City International. They also have branches in Taiwan and Singapore

Windy City International Limited


And at the International Finance Centre, there is another Chicago food export... International Map | Garrett Popcorn Shops

and pretty much all over the city was that Chicago institution, McDonald's.

Didn't notice anyplace hawking San Francisco food/culture...think the locals here see SF as a colony.
I saw a picture of the Golden Gate Bridge once in another country, saw people wearing Old Navy and Levis too, and people use fb and Google in other countries, therefore the San Francisco Bay must be a masterpiece... /sarcasm
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Old 05-14-2014, 09:40 PM
 
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I saw the film The Rock while in a movie theater in Paris so ya
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Old 05-14-2014, 09:47 PM
 
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just spent a week in Hong Kong...at the most elite of (many many Hong Kong) malls, the biggest expat restaurant, loaded with global bankers, is a joint named Dan Ryan's...which is run by a company called Windy City International. They also have branches in Taiwan and Singapore

Windy City International Limited


And at the International Finance Centre, there is another Chicago food export... International Map | Garrett Popcorn Shops

and pretty much all over the city was that Chicago institution, McDonald's.

Didn't notice anyplace hawking San Francisco food/culture...think the locals here see SF as a colony.
Pretty silly logic, and borderline desperate.

I have been to WalMarts in Europe. Therefore, Bentonville, Arkansas (HQ) is cosmopolitan.

I have been to a KFC in South America. Therefore, Lousiville, Kentucky (HQ) is cosmopolitan.

And I went to a place in Italy called Kansas Steakhouse. Therefore Kansas is cosmopolitan.
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Old 05-14-2014, 11:08 PM
 
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Pretty silly logic, and borderline desperate.

I have been to WalMarts in Europe. Therefore, Bentonville, Arkansas (HQ) is cosmopolitan.

I have been to a KFC in South America. Therefore, Lousiville, Kentucky (HQ) is cosmopolitan.

And I went to a place in Italy called Kansas Steakhouse. Therefore Kansas is cosmopolitan.

Just reporting what I saw....After two decades abroad....I don't labor under the false understanding that Americans may have of how the country is understood and/or perceived abroad...there are many nuances from country to country and there is not some sort of global rating system of American cities and their perceived importance/relevance/cultural amenities/cosmopolitanism.

For example, go to any central bank in the world, any university economics department at every single elite institution...and ask the economists what they know about Chicago? They'll talk your ear off.

My point about my trip to Hong Kong is that it reenforced most of my observations.... I constantly see Chicago referenced in my business and personal travels. Much more so than I've encountered anything themed after San Francisco. Just my truthful and honest observation.
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Old 05-15-2014, 12:05 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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just spent a week in Hong Kong...at the most elite of (many many Hong Kong) malls, the biggest expat restaurant, loaded with global bankers, is a joint named Dan Ryan's...which is run by a company called Windy City International. They also have branches in Taiwan and Singapore

Windy City International Limited


And at the International Finance Centre, there is another Chicago food export... International Map | Garrett Popcorn Shops

and pretty much all over the city was that Chicago institution, McDonald's.

Didn't notice anyplace hawking San Francisco food/culture...think the locals here see SF as a colony.
San Francisco isn't home to as many chain stores as other cities; ultimately it's the Bohemian culture that discourages it. And, no offense, but McDonald's isn't something I would flaunt
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Old 05-15-2014, 01:07 AM
 
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I'm not flaunting it.....but the world's largest and arguably the most famous restaurant chain is certainly something that ties Chicago to the world. I had an elderly neighbor back in Chicago who was in charge of a team building the initial Japanese McDonald's in Japan in the early 70's. He became fluent in Japanese and later translated Japanese literature...in other words, he was a worldly, cosmopolitan yet nondescript conservatively dressed Midwestern businessman, someone that 90% of SF trendoids (or Hippie as it would have been in his day)would most likely pigeonhole as an unsophisticated Midwesterner/Chicagoan.

frankly, given my experience, Chicagoans are every bit as well-traveled, knowledgable of the world, and in their own (unpretentious) way, every bit as 'cosmopolitan' as a Nob Hill heiress.

In fact, as much as I love San Francisco (visited there dozens of times), I have to say it may in fact be the most provincial of America's great cities...take that for what it's worth.
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